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New to the boards, but I've been reading for what seems like years now, and there is a lot of great information. The only thing I can't seem to find much data on is the Medial Epicanthoplasty procedure.
So I'm going to get the eyelid surgery done, but I already have a pretty prominent double eyelid, probably about 3 mm, but I wanted to get some of the fat removed and the lid a bit higher, maybe to the 5-6 range.
The doctor I decided on was Robert Flowers in Honolulu. He recommended that I also get a medial epicanthoplasty, along with the eyelid surgery to address the epicanthal fold.
Can anyone help with describing what this procedure is and more importantly if I should get it done.
Hi Jhuie, From reading all the information in this forum and some others, it appears there are really two good doctors ****** and Flowers. ****** is in California and I believe in Southern cali to be more specific. He is apparently more knowledge (or at least provides more data) than Flowers, but the general consensus is that Flowers has a bit "wow" effect with his results.
I'm going with Flowers because he seems to be more skilled with his knife and the fact that I live in Hawaii.
I did some more digging and apparently the Medial Epicanthoplasty is sometimes done to make the eye more symmetrical, but is necessary. Can anyone on the forum provide any input?
Seems that some doctors say it's not needed, while other say it'll enhance the eye...just trying to get some real world feedbacl.
I just got out from my eyelid surgery along with the Medial Epicanthoplasty with Dr. Flower 4 weeks ago. All I can say is I am very satisfy with the result, my eyes look much more prettier and I think my appearance look much better than before. I still get about 3mm for both of my eyes on my 4th week. I love my eyes, except I am worrying if there will be scar left on the inner corners where I had my medial epicanthoplasty. Actually medial epicanthoplasty is a procedure to remove the excess skin at the inner corner of the eyes. I think the medial epicanthoplasty does make my eyes look bigger and nicer than before. If you want to know more you can look at my before and after pictures. My album is Toronto_Beauty and my password is beauty. You can still look at my pictures this week, because I am going to take them off by this Sunday.
If you want to get more information on this procedure, you can check in Dr. ******'s web site. I would say Dr. Flower is not a man with too much word, and he doesn't give you as much information as Dr. ******. But I think he is great and he has alot of experiences in doing this. Dr. ****** doesn't recommend his patience to do a medial epicanthoplasty, because I think he has less experience in performing this procedure (I think he performs less than 10 patients with this procedure in a year) and honestly, you will have a bit of scar on the place where you get cut and stitches, even though it is not a terrible one, but a minor scar when you recover. (I am concerning about this now, but I am still new in my healing process. I still could see some red or white scar tissue on my inner corners, but not very visible if I dont' take off my glasses, I think on one can see it. I think I can hide it by putting on make up or using concealer, I hope it will fade away after few months. The scar on inner corners do take LONG to heal than the uppers. I know my eyes are healing better and better everyday, but it is almost 1 month, and they are still not completely healed. Sometimes I still could feel my uppers and inner corners are still hurting, but not too bothering and my eyes are easily getting tired than before my surgery. I think I just need to take a lot of rest and sleep much more after my surgery, but I usually sleep less than 7 hours, because of my job. Last night, I sleep almost 10 hours, I do feel my eyes look better, at least look less tired.)
One more thing, if you go with Dr. Flower, you might suggest you to do the coronal browlift along with your upper and Medial Epicanthoplasty. This is what he suggested for most of his patients. He won't push you to do the browlift if you don't want to, but he would suggest that you should do it later. I am still thinking if I should have my coronal browlift done later. I know my eyebrows are a bit lower than before, but I am not sure if I need a browlifts now. Dr. Flower said yes, do you think I should take his advice? He seems to know what look good for me.
Good Luck on your research, if you have any more question, you can always ask me.
Thanks Toronto beauty! That was some really good information. I'm thinking I don't want the additional risks of having another scar with the medial epicanthoplasty, especially since it doesn't seem to be a "requirement."
I like my eyes now, but just need some of the fat and crease to be a little more defined and raised like when I was younger Now that I'm getting a bit older, they are sagging a bit more than I'd like.
So I'm leaning towards just the eyelid instead of including the medial epicanthoplasty too.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed...and am a bit nervous because like I said earlier, I like my eyes now, I just want a bit more definition in them. Hopefully everything will turn out fine!
Dr Flowers did make some recommendations on other procedures that would help complete my appearance, but I think I'm satisfied with the way I look otherwise.
Thanks again for the information, it's been very helpful!
I recently got my uppers and medial epicanthopy done with Dr Flowers. The purpose is to make the eye look more almond shape ie makes it a little wider. I don't think you have to worry about the scarring. The cuts are fairly small. By week 2 i virtually had no scarring - perhaps I am just lucky and heal well. I would definately recommend it!
I think the scarring for the medial epicanthopy is depending on where the doctor makes the cut, me and another girl, both got the medial epicanthopy with Dr. Flower with the same procedures, I think my "Z" is bigger than hers. Hers is not very visible after she got her stitches taken out, but I still could see it if I really look at her eyes. If the doctor made the cut and put the stitches really close to the corner of your eyes, then you probably don't see anything after it. For mine, the upper part and the middle part of the "Z" are gone, but it still left me some white lower part. It is like " I " shape at the inner corners of my eyes. It is not very visible, but I want that to go away. I am applying "Dermatix" which is a scar gel for scarring after surgery, I think it helps a bit, because I could see the scarring is lighter everyday and less red. I just got my stitches out for just 2 weeks, maybe it is still early to make a conclusion. I will keep using the scar gel to see how it goes. I am not sure if that white and red tissue is called scarring or not, it looks more like allergy skin, then scarring actually. (It is hard to explain if you don't look at it)
Also, I think the skin tone do effect how the scarring look, if you have a darker skin tone, you probably won't notice your scarring as much as people who have light skin tone. I have a light skin tone, maybe that's why my scar looks more red and more visible. Maybe it doesn't make sense!!
Very glad to hear you're happy with your surgery. I'm afraid I missed the photos you posted on the web. I know you're concerned with being recognised, so if you'd like I can PM you with my email address and you can send them to me that way? Thanks so much
I have asymmetrical creases and uneven epicanthal folds. Huh, how often do you know someone like that? What concerns me is the shape of my right eye. This eye has a smaller crease and ad deeper fold. Whereas my left eye has an unstable, shallow crease but a very small fold. you can look at my album to see what I mean:
http://www.makemeheal.com/pictures/viewAlbum.php?albumid=2795 password: janel
Haha. My eyelid creases are weird. That extra crease above the real one of my right eye is basically the incision I want! I hope double-eyelid and epicanthoplasty will help widden my right eye but I'm kind of doubting it. Ugh, I hate the feeling. Do you think it's possible?
Also, I'm sure I'm about one of the youngest around this board - I'm 17. I really do hope I can get surgery done around early 20s after I save up enough by working. For most of you, you're most worried about choosing the right doctor. But just thinking about the getting the money is overwhelming me!
edit: actually, the prices aren't bothering me the most. it's the fact that if surgery could work for me. i mean, there's surgery for so many things... but i don't know.
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