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Mold in saline implants?

Mold in saline implants?

Postby soul81 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:05 am

Saline vs. silicone: I'm considering a BA. I've consulted with four doctors. Most recommend silicone, especially now that they have been rigorously tested and researched in the US. Two doctors in separate countries outside the US also advised silicone. Say they have been using them for years in those countries with excellent results aesthetically, and health wise. Of course there are pros and cons to each, but here's a news story regarding mold in implants you might be interested in that helped me decide on what type:

http://www.kirotv.com/consumer/2164474/detail.html

I additionally researched the topic further. OMG, it was a yucky road.
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Postby AyPee » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:48 am

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Postby Forca » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:30 am

IMO you can find disgusting things about BOTH saline and silicone; depends on if you want to see mold, or if you want to see globs of silicone stuck to the walls of the pocket and in various parts of the body. You can find stuff online to support ANY conclusion, no matter if it can be supported by research or not.

Each ps is different--mine WILL NOT use silicone no matter how 'safe' at this time b/c of how many clean-ups he's had to do (his opinion, not mine). It disgusted him to the point he can't in good conscience put that into any woman's body. He may change his tune later on when they are used more in the U.S., but he gets such excellent results from saline that he sees no point to risk it. He hasn't seen moldy implants, BTW. The biggest issue he had was faulty valves when he used Mentor. After switching to Allergan, he's had no issues at all with valves.
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Postby Ecuadorian_Mami » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:47 am

I asked my PS about this before my BA-He said....no.... I was scared about this cuz i did read a lot of scary storries...I stopped doing that....its like ok I got my BA done oh well....i researched...i got scared....but went for it...Its good to know what can happen...but lets just not think it will be you! Good luck!
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Postby sachi_808 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:00 pm

forca,

i was really worried about the valve thing, so it's nice that you mentioned that since your PS switched to Allergan he hasnt had any problems.

I'm getting Allergan saline implants.

My OB/GYN also told me that she advises against silicone in all cases because of the clean up factor. She said that she's seen a few of her patients have problems with rupturing and it hasnt' been a pretty process. But with saline, it's not a big deal from a medical standpoint.
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Postby CinBin » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:19 pm

Okay, I'm feeling better about my salines now. :P
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Postby soul81 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:43 am

Thanks to you all for the replies. It's good to hear your opinions. I should have calrified about the silicone...I meant the silicone cohesive implants that don't leak anything (there's different types of silicone), even when ruptured. Here's a video that explains them in case you're interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vFyAEgqJSw

Good luck to you all.
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Postby Angela100 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:52 am

Forca wrote: or if you want to see globs of silicone stuck to the walls of the pocket and in various parts of the body.


But...I thought the cohesive gels they use now prevented the silicone from spreading or at least, it was contained in the pocket area because it doesn't separate from the implant.

???
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Postby hopefulc » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:25 am

I think there are pros and cons with both saline and silicone. This was something that took me A LONG time to decide (besides the size). I was going back and forth and after speaking with my PS (who said I can use both with wonderful results) and the wonderful ladies in his office....saline was just, for me, better. In regards to the silicone and its contents getting stuck on the walls of the pocket, etc, I believe that even with the new cohesive it could happen (this is stictly my opinion). The way I look at it is if the bag its contained in does rupture or break away then the silicone substance is exposed (and remember you won't know of a rupture unless ofcourse you are stict about going every 3 years or so for an MRI). The inside of a silicone implant is quite sticky thus causing the exposed area to stick to the surrounding tissue and naturally over time with movement the stuff slowly comes out in globs; getting stuck or attaching itself to the pockets of the breast. I too was told a few times that its a very very messy clean up if this does happen. For me, if a revision or replacement is necessary I'd rather not have this issue and have that surgery be as simple as possible. Remember this is just my opinion. Both implants can cause issues (but most often then not ALL is WELL) and something we just have to know and take into consideration when making our final decision. I've been through tons of research, asked many questions and seen some terrible sites....but in the end, have still chosen to go ahead with the procedure becuase of how unhappy I am with my breasts (I really don't want to look like a boy anymore :roll: :lol: )

Oh and I asked my PS about saline and the mold issue. Its what many have felt was mold but in fact the solution was the antibacterial stuff (which is discolored) they used to put in the saline implant to prevent infection, bacterial growth, etc. Most PSs or if any, don't do that anymore as it wasn't proven to help anymore that if you didn't use anything. Ofcourse, going with a PS that is Board Certified and practices safe and proper handling of the implant is whats important and will give you optimal results whatever the case!!!!

Sorry for the rambling :oops: Good luck in your decisions!!!
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Postby Petite_girl » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:35 am

Angela100 wrote:
Forca wrote: or if you want to see globs of silicone stuck to the walls of the pocket and in various parts of the body.


But...I thought the cohesive gels they use now prevented the silicone from spreading or at least, it was contained in the pocket area because it doesn't separate from the implant.

???


I thought that too hun, i think she means the old gel ones x
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Postby YourOwnChoice » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:46 pm

Angela-
you hit the nail on the head 100%. - they are referring to very old implants such as what I had from 1974. The newer implants for several years do NOT, repeat-DO NOT spread when cut..they do NOT run. Go to the sticky notes and see the video as well as it shows the NEWEST ones as well.

Angela100 wrote:
Forca wrote: or if you want to see globs of silicone stuck to the walls of the pocket and in various parts of the body.


But...I thought the cohesive gels they use now prevented the silicone from spreading or at least, it was contained in the pocket area because it doesn't separate from the implant.

???
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Postby Petite_girl » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:01 pm

YourOwnChoice wrote:Angela-
you hit the nail on the head 100%. - they are referring to very old implants such as what I had from 1974. The newer implants for several years do NOT, repeat-DO NOT spread when cut..they do NOT run. Go to the sticky notes and see the video as well as it shows the NEWEST ones as well.

Angela100 wrote:
Forca wrote: or if you want to see globs of silicone stuck to the walls of the pocket and in various parts of the body.


But...I thought the cohesive gels they use now prevented the silicone from spreading or at least, it was contained in the pocket area because it doesn't separate from the implant.

???


Thanks for the clarification, i tought that sounded dated xxx
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Postby YourOwnChoice » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:18 pm

Petite,
It is very dated info. Ive had my first implants in 1974 and was involved in the Dow Corning class action suit, the stoppage the gov put on silicone until they had it confirmed globally they were ok after all and have researched this extensively.

1974-developed a hematoma and rushed back to the OR 36 hrs later where they found a rupture and had both implants replaced , then i developed in infection in my breasts (175 cc implants)

2004-had developed cc which was no shock due to how old my implant were-a silent rupture as discovered as well due to the exterior shell (the same whether silicone or saline) deteriorating over extensive time

2007-had cc repair R side

2008 cc repair left side and downsized my 350 cc implants to 275 cc-still a 34DDD/34E :(
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Postby Petite_girl » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:46 am

Goodness sounds like you've had a few rough experiences, im sure they've made you stronger and wiser, thanks for sharing. My ps had a cohesive implant cut in half on the table and let me have a feel-there was no way thet silicone would leak out of that! It was solid xxx
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Postby Forca » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:29 am

Yes--it's old video. The point I was making was that you can find ANYTHING to scare you about both types of implants ;)

So I've always had a question in my mind re cohesives. I've seen the video of one being cut, and yes, it stays together. BUT, the gel looks the same as the stuff found in pockets, and the cutting happens at room temperature. What happens to the consistency of the gel at body temp? Is it the same? I guess I was pretty shocked to see how similar the new gel looks to the old stuff.

BTW--I'm personally not anti-silicone. I'd consider it next time due to how little tissue I have. I just didn't really ask much prior to surgery as I had no choice if I went with my PS.
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