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First I apologize for posting a dermaroller question on the chemical peels board, but I thought you might be the best people to answer my question. I have a few shallow but noticeable dents from lipo which I've had for well over a decade. I've tried massagers and creams and dermasonic etc and nothing has worked. I'm wondering if any of you have fixed this issue with a dermaroller to stimulate collagen in the area of the dent. My dents look a little like cellulite but I know they aren't. Maybe dermaroller would stimulate collagen and smooth out the area...at least a little? Any opinions or info on this will be much appreciated! Thank you.
Thanks for your reply! I did have fg to the legs/butt to fill in dents from bad lipo. I've been using my dermarollers for a week now and already see improvement in skin tone, which is half the battle for me. I went to Campos and he filled in the dents almost completely. (He didn't cause the original problem...he just helped me fix bad work by another doctor.) However, because areas that are lipo'd are scarred internally, fat grafting doesn't "take" as well in those areas, so I still have a few slight indentations. They aren't very deep, though, and I'm hoping dermarolling and skin tone improvement will continue to improve the appearance of those areas. So far so good...
Wow, I never thought of doing a chemical peel on my legs, but that's a good idea for improving collagen. Thanks for the tip!
I have been doing a lot of research on the rolling, and you want to be careful with the dermaroller. Unless you are using a roller of .3 mm or less you should not use more than once a month. The very short needles, used for product penetration, can be used more often, but the longer needles cause inflammation, and having constant inflammation actually does more harm, in damaging the very collagen ou are trying to build. What you are seeing now is swelling, which makes the skin look smoother. It is not results from the dermarolling. That takes many weeks, and for most, months for actual results.
Having the swelling you are having, continuously, is chronic inflammation. You will get better results if you do a monthly roll with a 1.0mm on body. In some procedures, less is more! Unless you are trying to reduce scars, there is no additional benefit to using needles longer than 1.0 mm, once a month. Patience is key!
I have an update: It's working!!! I'm soooo pleased I can't even tell you. I thought I'd have to live with those dents forever, and I've been very hesitant to go out in a bikini because of them. If the process keeps working as it has been, I may get the dents to completely disappear.
I have no doubt you're right, Annie, about inflammation, but I live dangerously and have been using the dermaroller (1.5 to 2mm deep) about every other day. I've also been applying pueraria mirifica extract, which is a powerful phytoestrogen solution, before doing the dermarolling, to drive it in deeper. Pueraria mirifica (I get mine from Ainterol US) can be absorbed through the skin and cause fat development in areas of the body that have estrogen receptors, like the breasts and butt/hips. Since my dents are on my lower hips/sides of my legs, I think it's working. (PM, btw, has made my breasts go up a size through topical application. Disclaimer, though; it shouldn't be used without consulting a doctor if you're on birth control or have a history of breast or uterine cancer in your family). So...the pueraria may be helping to get rid of the dents. I was using it on them before, but didn't have anywhere near such dramatic results.
I've also just got a photon light supersonic massager off Amazon. Its strength is 3mhz, to help actives in skin serums penetrate the dermis. They sell some that are 1mhz, which is actually a stronger current despite the lower number, and at that level the waves can get rid of fat and scar tissue. I don't want that. I want more fat in these areas to fill in the dents.
I have been using my ultrasonic massager to drive the pueraria mirifica even deeper into my skin in those areas and have added a hyaluronic acid serum to the mix, so all of these together are probably helping to promote collagen production in those areas and smooth out the dents.
I really wish I had taken before and after photos so you could see. The difference just the derma roller made, even before I added in pueraria mirifica or the ultrasonic massager, was dramatic. It has also done wonders to fill in/lighten my lipo scars, in just a month. I'm so pleased. I thought I would have to go back for more fat grafting to try to even out the dents, but now it looks like I'll be able to solve the problem myself.
Hi Samsara, Thanks for all of your posts. I am having the same issue with post-lipo irregularities from 4 years ago, about 2 months after tried one paid session of fat grafting with my dr. which helped a bit, but decided to give up on this dr. as he was a bit of a hack, and fearful of any more removal of fat for the grafting. So much bumpiness and pitting.
Back then I had also tried the derma roller for a few weeks, not sure if any differences though, using 1mm and 2mm almost every day. I obsessed so much on it that I finally surrendered to never wearing shorts again, but have recently thought of trying again.
I love your idea of adding the Pueraria Mirifica, and am thinking of trying it. Had the Pueraria Mirifica worked, or may I ask if you might have any other recommendations. Thank you again!
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