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The most EFFECTIVE peel with dramatic results? - home or Drs

The most EFFECTIVE peel with dramatic results? - home or Drs

Postby shopping_queen » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:25 am

Hi everyone. Ive spent quite a bit of time reading these boards, but have not quite managed to get to the bottom of this issue, so I really hope someone can help! :)

Im 41, with slightly sagging skin, & wrinkles on my face & neck plus hollows/sagging/wrinkles under (& around my eyes). Im white (as in pale, too), with thin celtic skin, & I stay well out of the sun. I dont use retinols as I believe they thin your skin even more & stop working when you stop using them. AHAs have never done anything lomng term for me either.

I have, in the past done a TCA peel at home (over 18mths ago, 18% I think - virtually no results), used to do mild glycolic peels (8 months ago, nice for a few days then nothing), & two weeks ago did a Biomedic 30% salycilic acid peel at home (not bad, but not enough by a long way!)

But I want a KILLER peel thats really going to give me dramatic results, not something I have to do every 3-6 months. I dont care if I have to stay home for two weeks looking like a freak (I work from home), I want RESULTS! Not 'nice smooth skin' type of results, but '10 years younger' results. Obviously I would prefer something I could do at home, but if I have to fork out for a Doc I will.

Does anything really deliver? Please, please help!
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Postby lekat » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:15 am

Hi SQ:

To produce the dramatic results you want, seems like something that rebuilds your epidermis (where most of the damage is- fine lines, etc.) would be called for- those are the more drastic procedures, like lasers- erbium, phenol peel, or co2 laser. Fillers to help deeper wrinkles, botox with dynamic ones.

You might want to get some consults on a Jessners/TCA combo peel- that is best to have a professional do it due to it's risks, but it is the deepest medium peel. All other peels you can do at home would need to be repeated periodically to maintain results-

The only thing that helps sagging that works (that I'm aware of) is surgery-

Tretinoin, aha's, are the only skin care ingredients to my knowledge that have studies that demonstrate their effectiveness in mitigating some skin damage. Yes, if you stop using them, you loose their effects overtime; just like if you stop excerising, you loose muscle tone, etc. However, they do help most overtime and are of the few skin care ingredients that have been studied for a long time.

There are no miracles yet, but I'm hoping there will be some in my lifetime :).

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The Skin Culture Peel

Postby Nikkicute » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:20 am

I would suggest trying the Skin Culture Peel.
http://www.skinculture.com/

You don't care if you have to stay home?
Oh you will definitely be staying home with
this one.

This peel is my favorite!!
I do use Julie Robbins TCA Complex
(aka "the dry peel")

This Skin Culture Peel is what I call "the moist peel", you have to keep your face as moist as
possible has with Julie's you have to keep your skin as dry as possible.
Between the two this is the best!! If only I could stay at home and not have to go out, but for now I cannot and will be using the TCA Complex for clear my skin.
You can use the:
Peel 1000 (one day peel.)
Peel 2000 (two day peel)
Peel 3000 (three day peel)
or Peel 4000 (four day peel).

If you use the Peel 2000 or more prepare not to talk too much because your skin will be TIGHT!!!! Very tight!! And the peel works fast also.
They have before and after pics on the site as well, so you can have an idea of what you will look like using the peel.

I think this peel will help anyone out who wants to have a deep at home peel and does not mind looking like a burn victim for a couple of days.
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Peel sites

Postby neverhadniceskin » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:17 am

Has anyone else noticed how most of these sites that sell peels and post before and after pitures use totally different lighting in the after pictures than in the before pictures? Or how the people have on makeup in the after pictures?Girls, makeup can cover ALOT of our skin sins.I want to see before and after on BARE faces with the EXACT same lighting...
NOW THATS A CONCEPT HUH?Sorry to ramble on but I know I can't be the ONLY person that is tired of spending money on hyped up products that only disappoint.This really hurts the products that DO work,because we only become suspicious and skeptical after being repeatedly let down .... :x
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Postby whippedcream » Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:23 pm

I had a Jessner Peel done at my ps's office a week ago yesterday...I had to use a hydroquinone product for 2 weeks prior. About the only results I see are smaller pores....very disappointed.

If I had an extra $1500 right now i'd be in for a TCA...
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Re: The Skin Culture Peel

Postby DrJill » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:20 am

Thank you so much for suggesting these products. I actually purchased the skin culture peel yesterday! How long did the results last? Thanks in advance - Jill

Nikkicute wrote:I would suggest trying the Skin Culture Peel.
http://www.skinculture.com/

You don't care if you have to stay home?
Oh you will definitely be staying home with
this one.

This peel is my favorite!!
I do use Julie Robbins TCA Complex
(aka "the dry peel")

This Skin Culture Peel is what I call "the moist peel", you have to keep your face as moist as
possible has with Julie's you have to keep your skin as dry as possible.
Between the two this is the best!! If only I could stay at home and not have to go out, but for now I cannot and will be using the TCA Complex for clear my skin.
You can use the:
Peel 1000 (one day peel.)
Peel 2000 (two day peel)
Peel 3000 (three day peel)
or Peel 4000 (four day peel).

If you use the Peel 2000 or more prepare not to talk too much because your skin will be TIGHT!!!! Very tight!! And the peel works fast also.
They have before and after pics on the site as well, so you can have an idea of what you will look like using the peel.

I think this peel will help anyone out who wants to have a deep at home peel and does not mind looking like a burn victim for a couple of days.
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Skin Culture Peel 4000

Postby Nikkicute » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:20 pm

I bought the Peel 4000 last May with some of my tax return money.

But I messed up because I was trying to do the peel without anybody noticing, which is hard with this peel. I did not use all four jars back to back like I should have.:roll:
I used one jar then did another one later on ect.. It peeled really nice but it would have been so much better if I just did all four jars back to back for one deep peel instead of my mini peels.

That was my 3rd time buying the skin culture peel. The Peel 1000 is new, they never offered the a single jar before. You only could only buy the 2000 and up.

I did do a Peel 2000 (two jars) back to back and it peeled real nice!!!! The results lasted a long time. I tend to break out in the exact same places on my skin for some odd reason and those spots left over from my breakouts on my upper cheek were gone.

I've known about this peel since 1994. I remember the lady on the phone saying "you sound awfully young to be purchasing our product". LOL!! I'm like, I bought it before!!! I'm trying to clear my skin. But I guess they see it as more of an anti-aging peel,
not for young people to use for clearing the skin.

My skin was sooooooooo soft. I didn't even want to wash it. It looked like brand new skin. So smooth and clear.
They give you this really heavy thick cream to put on your skin to soften up the skin that is peeling.

I think you'll like this peel.
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Postby lollipop » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:28 pm

how does this compare to obagi?What is the difference?
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Postby Nikkicute » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:01 pm

lollipop wrote:how does this compare to obagi?What is the difference?


I'm not sure...
The obaji is the blue peel right?
I think that is a TCA PEEL if I'm not mistaken.

The Skin Culuture Peel is more like a phenol peel. I mean it does contain a small amount of it in the peel I thnk that's what makes it such a good peel.

The results of TCA peel are usually less dramatic than and not as long-lasting as those of a phenol peel. More than one TCA peel may be needed to achieve desired result. The recovery from a TCA peel is usually shorter than with a phenol peel.

When I did a Skin Culture Peel it diffintely went deeper than the TCA peel.
(12.5%). I'm not going any higher than that. 12.5% is enough for me.
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Postby lollipop » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:10 pm

I am chinese and italian,is it ok to use on that type of skin or is it only for white people? I heard obagi was ok to use for darker skins,I wasnt going to do the blue peel obagi was another lighter one, but I cant decide between your skin peel(the 4000?) or Obagi it sure gets confusing...
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Ok for dark skin.

Postby Nikkicute » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:41 pm

lollipop wrote:I am chinese and italian,is it ok to use on that type of skin or is it only for white people? I heard obagi was ok to use for darker skins,I wasnt going to do the blue peel obagi was another lighter one, but I cant decide between your skin peel(the 4000?) or Obagi it sure gets confusing...


I know it's ok to use on darker skinned individuals.

The before and after pics on skin culture peel, the man on the site is black.

Here is a pic of a women who had the blue peel done.
http://www.griffinmd.com/ls_page.html

This was done on by a plactic surgeon.
She looks so different!!!

I gather she used some fade creams on her face for a couple of weeks before doing the peel to cut down on discoloration.

So the blue peels is safe to use on darker skin as well.

When doing the Skin Culture Peel I would not start off with the Peel 4000.

Start with the Peel 1000 and just call them and ask them about more about their product.
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Postby Nikkicute » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:08 pm

warmblonde wrote:Hi lollipop!

Phenol peels of any strength will take color out of your skin (I am 1/2 Italian).

Joan Kron wrote a very good book on plastic surgery and she devotes an entire chapter to phenol peels, the history & development of them and their use in modern times from Hollywood on to the present. The title of her book is: "Lift - Wanting, Fearing, and Having a Face-Lift". Check out pages 145 - 155. All about the phenol peel.

Phenol peels are nothing to mess with and can do irreparable damage to your face if done incorrectly.** There are both lay people (undercover so-to-speak, since it is a crime to administer phenol peels to humans and not be a licensed physician) & physicians who specialize in phenol peels.

**Please do not flame me for posting this warning. There are a lot of posters here who really believe in do-it-yourself, and I respect their beliefs, but the medium to deep peels are best left to a specialist. I have had a deep peel which is basically a 3rd degree burn. The excruciating pain is as if your face is on fire. Please do not attempt this on your own. You do not want to look sugicalized. Because something is available for sale on eBay does not make it safe.

~warmblonde


No flamming here!!
Phenol Peel are the deepest you can get, I remember reading about it on the net.

It is one of those peels they rarely do, practically will hook you up to a morphin drip. LOL!!

This is from the SkinCulture site:

Many cosmetics such as cold creams and cleansing formulas contain a low percentage of phenol. Chloroseptic mouthwash has 1.4% and Camphophenique Cold Sore Gel has 4.7% phenol. Skin Culture's Peeling Treatments contain less than 2% by volume.

Not that much is in there, but it's in there.
Enough to give your skin a great peel though.
I have not had a problem using this peel.

If only there was no downtime....
With any peel no matter what be careful.
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Postby lollipop » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:39 pm

I dont really want to lose color from my face just the hyperpigmentation and imperfections, I will definitely look into this further I want to be careful my skin is not really that bad anyway I have had great luck with TNS recovery, tazarac retin a and Is clinical products...just wanted to get it a little better.Thanks for info.
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Re: Ok for dark skin.

Postby DrJill » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:56 am

Actually, I went ahead and bought the 4000 (it took forever to get here though as it got caught up in customs). Anyway, I am on day 6 and 1/4 of my skin has peeled and my face is soooo tight! I cannot wait for the rest of it to peel and I am also dying to wash my face (you cannot use soap or anything else until you are done peeling). I will let you know my results! Luckily, I did not break out whatsoever. Jill

Nikkicute wrote:
lollipop wrote:I am chinese and italian,is it ok to use on that type of skin or is it only for white people? I heard obagi was ok to use for darker skins,I wasnt going to do the blue peel obagi was another lighter one, but I cant decide between your skin peel(the 4000?) or Obagi it sure gets confusing...


I'm black, so I know it's ok to use on darker skinned individuals.

The before and after pics on skin culture peel, the man on the site is black as well.

Here is a pic of a women who had the blue peel done.
http://www.griffinmd.com/ls_page.html

This was done on by a plactic surgeon.
She looks so different!!!

I gather she used some fade creams on her face for a couple of weeks before doing the peel to cut down on discoloration.

So the blue peels is safe to use on darker skin as well.

When doing the Skin Culture Peel I would not start off with the Peel 4000.

Start with the Peel 1000 and just call them and ask them about more about their product.
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Re: Ok for dark skin.

Postby Nikkicute » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:59 am

DrJill wrote:Actually, I went ahead and bought the 4000 (it took forever to get here though as it got caught up in customs). Anyway, I am on day 6 and 1/4 of my skin has peeled and my face is soooo tight! I cannot wait for the rest of it to peel and I am also dying to wash my face (you cannot use soap or anything else until you are done peeling). I will let you know my results! Luckily, I did not break out whatsoever. Jill


LOL!! I told you your face would be tight!!
Wow you just jumped right in and got the Peel 4000?
whoohoo goog for you!!

Where do you live that the cream got caught up in custom?

How does the new skin look?

I know how you feel about not being able to wash
your face. All I could do when I was using the peel
was dip a corner of the wash cloth in some water
and wash my eyes when I woke up in the morning.

When you do get to wash make sure it's with a very gentle cleanser.

Remember the Sunblock!!!!
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