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lumineers in tj mexico???

Postby ~*~*caramel*~*~ » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:21 pm

does anyone know of a great dentist in tijuana mexico who does lumineers? if so please let me know... thanks
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Postby SanyBelle » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:28 pm

Hi, why do you want lumineers? Have you researched them? I had them, hated them and then had them replaced (at my own cost) with traditional veneers.
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Postby ~*~*caramel*~*~ » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:52 am

Hi... :D the reason i want them is because they dont have to file down your natural teeth i dont have bad teeth at all but i do want that million dollar smile.. with veneers they file your teeth down and i just dont want that what if one of them were to fall of?? you would be left with a teeth that has been chopped down to half the size until you get them redone again.. i just dont want to mess up my natural teeth like that so thats why i perfer lumineers instead. why didnt you like them?
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Postby SanyBelle » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:47 am

The fact that the dentist doesn't have to shave down your teeth is the biggest selling point of the company that makes the lumineers, but if you have big(ger) teeth that are close together now, the lumineers will leave your teeth looking very big, bulky and close together. You will not look like the models in the lumineer literature. My lumineers were yellow, big and smooth, looked alot like piano keys and I couldn't wait to have them removed. I was so unhappy with the lumineers that I tried not to smile at all and when I did I found myself covering my mouth with my tongue and hand. The lums were $900 each, I paid a different dentist $1000 each for traditional porcelain veneers (Empress brand I think). Neither the lums nor the veneers have ever popped off for me, if the dentist uses enough cement, that should not ever be a problem. Here's what I wrote on a different dental forum:

1. They were very big and bulky.

2. I could not floss between them without using floss threaders. Every brand of floss I tried got shreaded while trying to floss.

3. They were very yellow. The original dentist did not suggest whitening my bottom teeth first to get a slightly whiter smile.

4. He put the Lumineers on over a chip (he called it a divot) on my right front top tooth. You could see right through the Lum to the divot. This divot is the reason I started thinking of veneers in the first place.

5. They were too long (that always happens since the dentist doesn't shave much tooth off) and I could not close my mouth completely without thinking about it, thus I tended to breathe through my mouth, making my mouth very dry. I'd wake up every morning with such a dry cakey mouth, I HATED IT.

6. The backs felt so horrible, I could feel the ridge where they were attached. I can feel a little of this with the Empress too, but such a little bit that it doesn't bother me.

7. The Lums were bothering my gums, my gums were getting more and more swollen, sore and red as the weeks went by. It could have been because I couldn't floss well.

8. The Lums affected my speech. I couldn't say my S's, C's or T's well anymore.

9. I was very self conscious about getting food caught between them thus I had to look in a morror alot. When I did get food between them, it was hard to remove.

10. I was also very self conscious about the looks of them so I didn't smile much anymore. They weren't little chickets, they were yellow almost postage stamp sized, kinda looked like piano keys....


The Lumineers were very difficult for my new dentist to remove. She had to chip away at them to get them off. There was NO WAY that any dentist could have removed them to make them smaller like my original dentist finally said he would do after months of visits/calls. I finally gave up on dentist #1, after subsequent visits I just didn't like or trust him anymore.


If I could go back again, I would never have gotten any veneers at all. Although my teeth look nice now with the Empress veneers, they are just too much upkeep. Don't let any dentist tell you that they just put veneers on and you never have any problems again... they are not a magical solution.... I still talk differently (even with the traditional veneers) and they take extra time at night to clean, especially the backs of them.


Lumineers might work for someone who has very small teeth that are widely spaced apart. I can't imagine anyone else would be happy with them.


Sorry this is so long, but it's good you are doing your homework before getting them. I didn't, I wish I had googled "Lumineer" before getting them to read the stories about them. GOOD LUCK!
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Postby ~*~*caramel*~*~ » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:41 pm

hi, thanks that was very detailed now i know..... do you think that all happened because the doctor didnt know what he was doing? im going to copy and paste everything to remind myself of what my happen and to also question my dentist if i ever decide to have them done..... since my teeth are slighly spaced and small i "dont have large teeth" maybe just maybe they would work for me but thanks for letting me know :wink:
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Postby SanyBelle » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:51 pm

It was probably a combination of my first dentist not knowing what he was doing (I think dentists only need a 1 day seminar to be certified in placing Lumineers) and the Lumineers only working for those with small widely spaced teeth. Whatever type of veneer you get, have the dentist use a temporary try-in glue for a week so that you can get used to the veneers to see if you really like them. Then if you love them, go back for the final placing with permanent cement. If you don't like the Lums and they are placed with permanent cement, they will not come off easily like some dentists tell you and you are stuck like I was.... I had to get them chipped off, and then prepped for real veneers anyway.

The big selling points to me for the Lumineers were that 1) they were contact lens thin and little to no prep of teeth was required and that 2) if I didn't like them, they could easily be removed. 1) Little or no prep means a big bulky tooth 2) not true at all, they were not going to come off easily no matter what the dentist did.

Good luck!
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Lumineer nightmare

Postby msbondu » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:24 pm

I've got almost the exact story: 1) had a divot on my front tooth and previous bonding was wearing off 2) Heard about Lumineer's and took the marketing bait 3) Paid for 6 veneers on top and was unhappy with them from the beginning and it's just been increasing--I want them off! They look too big and unatural; have yellowed; have made my gums receed; mysterious black and brown flecks have appeared at the top edges around my gum line (looks like "stuff" is getting behind the veneer.) They are hard to floss and it's just been a huge waste of money to look this funny. My dentist was a great guy up until I let him know I was unhappy. Just got back from my first consult with another dentist today to remove them and have learned it won't be easy (not like they market to you anyway.) I'm determined to find a dentist willing to remove these by the end of the year.
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Postby SanyBelle » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:54 pm

Hi msbondu,

Lumineers does do some great advertising, too bad their product doesn't work for everyone.

The Lumineers were very difficult to remove, make sure the new dentist knows about the tooth with the divot. When my new dentist removed the Lumineer on that tooth, it broke the tooth and I had to have a root canal and a crown instead of a veneer. But that's okay since my insurance paid for the root canal and 1/2 of the crown... it doesn't pay for the veneers.

Did you find a dentist to replace your veneers? Where do you live?
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Postby spy9doc » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:17 pm

Caramel........I wanted to give you the names of three good dentists in Tijuana. You will have to contact them to see if they do your desired procedure, but it's at least a place to begin your research.


Dr. Julio Garcia – my personal favorite
Jose Clemente Orozco #2468 - Suite 204
Zona Rio, Tijuana B.C. Mexico
664-6-33-92-76
juliogarcia67jaga@live.com.mx

Dr. Oscar Torres, DDS (good reputation, haven't consulted him)
Pacific Dental Ignacio Comonfort #9317 Suite F Zona Río, Tijuana, México.
Tel.634‐08‐35 From U.S.A. (01152‐664)634‐08‐35, Toll Free 1‐866 804.18.77
http://www.sdro.com/pacdental oscartorres@hotmail.com

Dr. Jose A. Caballero, DDS (one of the best, but most expensive in Tijuana)
Cirujano Dentista COSMETIC Dentistry & IMPLANT Center
"PLAZA MEDICAL" Bldg. José Clemente Orozco #2468 Ste.405 (between‐Blvd.Sánchez Taboada & Paseo de los Héroes) Zona Río, Tijuana, B.C., Méx., C.P.22320
http://www.dentalartcenter.net
Appointments
From USA (619) 734‐2353 and (01152‐664) 900‐7198 & 900‐7199
email: info@dentalartcenter.net & smyledr1@hotmail.com
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Postby msbondu » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:53 am

SanyBelle wrote:Hi msbondu,

Did you find a dentist to replace your veneers? Where do you live?


I live in VA and no I haven't found a dentist yet. I've called around to those that advertise putting on Lumineers thinking that if they put them on--they might have experience taking them off. No such luck yet--my questions just seem to puzzle the receptionist, "Recpetionist: Yes we do apply Lumineers here!", "Me: No I said I already have Lumineers and I want them OFF!" "Receptionist:....oh. I don't think the dentist does that..." Most say come in for a consult and that more than likely I'll have to have another procedure\process to replace the Lumineers. Thank you so much for the info. Still searching for an experience dentist....
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Removing Lumineers

Postby MissyJo » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:34 am

Hi Msbondu, I too have Lumineers that I want removed I was wondering if you have had it done yet and if you managed to go back to natural teeth or if you had to have more veneers placed.
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Re: Removing Lumineers

Postby msbondu » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:14 pm

MissyJo wrote:Hi Msbondu, I too have Lumineers that I want removed I was wondering if you have had it done yet and if you managed to go back to natural teeth or if you had to have more veneers placed.


Not removed yet. I've spoken with about five cosmetic dentists and all have agreed that going back to the natural tooth is not an option-that too much tooth material would be lost in the removal process. One very impressive cosmetic dentist (he gave me lots of his time; showed me many before/after shots of his work) said that any reputable dentist would not be using Lumineers at all! The marketing is decieving and that Lumineers are the "Sub Prime Mortgages" of the dental community! I say we all get together and file a class action suit against Rembrandt (company I believe owns Lumineers) and ask for full restitution to have the veneers removed and replaced with a reputable product!
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Re: lumineers in tj mexico???

Postby Slivers » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:03 pm

Caramel,
I hope you listened and did not allow Lumineers to be placed on your teeth. To read my story, google, "These Lumineers have been Hell".
I wish there were a website that would allow us to contact each other openly and put a stop to this medical scam. I understand someone named Deborah Ketner has put up such a site, but I can't find it? Does anyone out there have the address?

""This also is a recurring complaint: Den-Mat refers dentists who are not necessarily qualified for the job. In the words of Deborah Ketner, who had a horrendous experience similar to the one above and now has a whole website (listed below in the sources section) devoted to anti-Lumineer advocacy: “Don’t make the mistake I did by going with the referral that I received from Lumineers through Den-Mat Holdings, LLC. They aren’t necessarily giving you an experienced and qualified Lumineers certified dentist – just one who has paid for listing with them after three days of training the Lumineers method of fitting veneers.” Read more: http://www.sanedentist.com/lumineer-track-record-has-its-share-of-disasters-and-mishaps.html#ixzz0ymOGLHQf ""
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Re: lumineers in tj mexico???

Postby Claudia.C » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:21 pm

I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with the da vinci porcelain veneers, but I believe they offer a limited lifetime warranty on them! How can you beat that?

......and I'm not talking about Lumineers, I'm talking about feldspathic porcelain veneers. They do have a a website for consumers to check it out. They are natural looking and do not come off as "fake" or "thick".

I highly suggest that if anyone is going to invest in their smile they look into them. It's your smile, and your going to have it for a lifetime --- why not get a smile backed by a warranty? Keep in mind that your smile is one of the first things people see, so why skimp on quality?

I have seen hundreds of smiles created by them and they are absolutely phenomenal!

In addition, if you are planning on getting cosmetic work done, you should check out Doctors that are accredited with the AACD. The American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry. Doctors that have gone through the rigors of obtaining this accreditation have gone through extensive training, have had their work evaluated by some of the top peeps!Other associations may be AAED, ACE, ASDA, or Royal College of Dentists of Canada. ( that I know of)

By choosing a qualified Cosmetic Dentist, and letting them give you a proper evaluation you can expect to find some better results that others that have not been trained to do so...
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