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Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

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Postby MrsH » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:11 pm

DCNGA
I have been researching and reading. After talking to quite a few hairdressers that I know and asking lots of questions on hair boards all semi and permanant hair dyes contain ppd. Some higher and some lower amounts. The lower amounts in the vegetable based dyes like naturtint. I did however get some good suggestions on using deposit type dyes like Loving Care. If you use the darker colors they do not wash out like the lighter colors do. Also the girls at makeupalley that use this leave it on for an hour. Also they do not wash their hair everyday. Usually three times per week. I also found a vege based demi which is Naturtints demi called Vegetint, I think (my memory is not what it used to be). You will find it if you google it. It is expensive though, $15.00. I picked up some Loving care for $4.50 at walgreens in the light brown. I am going to leave it on for the hour as suggested on MUA and give it a test run. I personally don't mind if I can color it every two weeks and it would stay.
I have to color my hair every three weeks anyway from my hair growing so fast and the Loving Care is not that much for me although I would prefer the veg. based one but that is to high priced for my liking. I will keep looking for something more reasonable.[quote][/quote]
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:38 pm

You're a sweetheart, MrsH! I bought the Loving Care last week but have not used it yet.

Do you remember the old Roux stuff? I'm actually using it right now, Roux Fanci-Full:

http://www.americarx.com/products/20148.html

It's not that bad, actually. I just put it in after I wash my hair and it darkens the grey hairs enough to blend it. It will be a problem as my hair grows out and will not look very good, so I'll probably have to go to the Loving Care.

Again, thanks a lot. It was very kind of you to check for me.

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Postby MrsH » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:31 pm

Thanks DCGNA, I have heard of the Roux stuff. My grandmother used to use this. It does wash out after you shampoo your hair so you have to use it after every shampoo. I did a clarifying wash on my hair today so I am going to try the Loving Care tomorrow. I am going to leave it in for the 1 hour as suggested on the MUA forum and see how it goes. I will give you a report after a couple of weeks.
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:57 pm

I'll be looking forward to your "report", MrsH!
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Postby MrsH » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:28 am

DCGNA,

I got four washings on my hair and now feel I need to redye. My hair feels very healthy. It lasted two weeks for me. I was on make up healthy and green site and was reading up on dying hair. I found two natural hair color sites that look interesting. Ecocolors and actnaturals. $20.00 and $29.00. They list the ingredients and have the home hair color kits. Ecocolors do say they have a minute amont of ppd but have colored ppd allergy people and have had no problem since it is a very minute amount. Might be worth a look. Edited to add that Ecocolor is sold at Whole Foods.
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Postby DixMay » Mon May 04, 2009 4:18 am

DCNGA wrote:Naturtint has PPD.

Ingredient list:

Ingredients:

INGREDIENTS: *NATURTINT: 2.1 fl oz / 60 ml PEG-2 OLEAMINE, AQUA PURIFICATA
(PURIFIED WATER), COCAMIDE DEA, ALCOHOL DENAT (ALCOHOL), PROPYLENE GLYCOL,
ETHANOLAMINE, OLEIC ACID, SODIUM SULFITE, TETRASODIUM EDTA, HYDROLYZED VEGETABLE
PROTEIN (TRITICUM VULGARE, SOY, CORN, AVENA SATIVA), SODIUM
ERYTHORBATE, p-PHENYLENEDIAMINE, 4-CHLORORESORCINOL,
2-AMINO-4-HYDROXYETHYLAMINOANISOLE SULFATE,
N,N,BIS-(2-HYDROXYETHYL)-p-PHENYLENEDIAMINE SULFATE, m-AMINOPHENOL,
4-AMINO-2-HYDROXYTOLUENE.
*COLOR DEVELOPER: 2.1 FL OZ / 60 ML AQUA PURIFICATA (PURIFIED WATER), HYDROGEN
PEROXIDE, CETYL ALCOHOL, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, LAURETH-3, CETEARETH-20, OXYQUINOLINE
SULFATE.
*NUTRIDEEP MULTIPLIER: 1.4 fl. oz./ 40 ML AQUA PURIFICATA (PURIFIED WATER),
QUATERNIUM-83, HYDROLYZED VEGETABLE PROTEIN PG-PROPYL SILANETRIOL C
12-15 ALKYL BENZOATE, PEG-10 GRAPESEED STEROL, CERAMIDE 2, BUTYLENE GLYCOL,
HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER SEED EXTRACT),PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL,
PARFUM (FRAGRANCE), IMIDAZOLIDINYL UREA, BENZYL SALICYLATE, HEXYL CINNAMAL,
LIMONENE



Here's a couple of links that explain PPD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Phenylenediamine

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/paraphe ... lergy.html

That looks like a good ingredients list... thanks for sharing it..



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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby tle0223 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:47 pm

Hello - I can totally sympathize, I'm in exactly the same situation as you. I used to use Natural instincts but they have since changed the formula and now most shades contain p-phenylenediamine :(
I have found a medium brown shade of Herbashine that does not contain the dreaded ingredient ("exotic brown") but it does give a red hue to my hair, so perhaps not good for you. I find myself in the drugstore aisle reading the ingredients looking for one that works. I am on the quest as well and if I find anything I'll let you know!
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby Marisa23 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:46 am

I would like to reactivate this thread since it's been 2 years and hopefully some new advances have been made. I have an allergy to PPD and I'm looking for a hair dye that I could use. I'm also allergic to henna. I think some henna dyes contain PPD.
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby darcyboo71 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:34 pm

I have just come across this discussion and am so pleased you have reactivated it. Since being pregnant and recently giving birth I have suffered with the most horrendous reaction to my normal (professional) hair dye. My face swells up and I have what looks like third degree burns around my scalp which then turn into crispy red angry patches - lasting weeks! I have since read that this awful ingredient PPD can kill people, so I should be grateful this is all the reaction I have had. I am now looking round everywhere to find a product that is PPD free. I don't mind if I have to colour it every week because even when I have the permanent stuff applied my greys start coming through after two weeks anyway because my hair grow so quickly. I just want a natural chocolate brown colour (is that too much to ask I wonder?) without the PPD. Someone mentioned Loving Care? Is that PPD free? I will keep looking and let you know if I find anything.... I don't have loads of grey hair, just a few roots - enough to want to colour my hair! I don't want to use Henna either because I don't think they look natural... ARRGH... it's sooo hard...!
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby mgleigh » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:05 am

I have just read some awful news story online about a 38 year old woman who, after washing off hair dye couldn't breath, had a massive heart attack and is now in a coma which she is unlikely to recover from...this is allegedly a reaction to PPD build up as she had been using Dyes for years. Apparently your body never gets rid of the PPD so each time you use hair dye it builds up and stays there, as a result of years of hair dying this has happened to the poor young mum of 2. This story has really frightened me :| . I have not been my natural hair colour since i was 14yrs old and im now 37yrs. I have spotted this web site but not checked it out yet http://www.lavitanuovainc.com/ Would like others opinions on the info on it. I'm off to read it now! :!:
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby ncasey1956 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:39 am

Hi- I have been reading all post on the PPD problem. I have tried numerous options and even went to gray hair for about 3 years which was such a relief. I had a heatlhy scalp and no skin reactions. It was a great break. I have used foils, which is also expensive but the hair shaft absorbs dye either way. It really doesnt' matter what you use if you are allergic. I get patchy sores all over my scalp and ears swell breaking skin. It takes up to three to four weeks to heal and it is very slow. I use head and shoulders, scalpacin, steriod cream and tried many items to get relief. I really do not think there is an option. What do you use to heal the sores?
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby barneyi » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:32 am

Hey, author.I just read your posy and want to express and share my feeling with.when i was around 20, i used to color or dye my hair with different color and the result is it became dye and seeing this i became nervous and depressed.them i search alot on internet and get a solution grey ban ,which make my hair normal and impressive.so the bottom line is better you avoid the use of dyes and keep your hair normal and if your hair a become greyish in shade then i prefer you to try Grey ban once on trial bases and if it you are comfortable with this then continue to use it.
Source(s): http://www.jdharris.co.uk/grey-ban-grayban-grey-hair-treatment-remedies
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby itchyhead » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:01 pm

I never write on these types of sites, but I just went through such a horrible experience and I can't believe how many people do not know about PPD. I colored my hair with Natural instincts and did not sleep for over a week due to my head being so incredibly itchy. I had my mom massage tea tree oil in my head and wore a shower cap to bed to get a little relief. I went to the doctor and she said that it wasn't the hairdye. I dyed my hair again with a dye that had no alcohol thinking that was the problem. The right side of my face blew up three inches and my right eye was swollen shut. My forhead protruded 2 inches and I had welts all over my face and head. My daughter looked at me and cried. This scared me so much and I knew it was the haircolor and the PPD. I went to a Dermatologist and she said that she treated two people a week due to PPD. I don't understand how this can be legal.
It's been 5 weeks and the welts have gone down and stopped oozing. After much research I've learned that it is banned in every country except the U.S. I'm so afraid to try anything that it will happen again. I saw the post about using Loving Care and will check it out. Good Luck to you all!
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby Glennamae » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:09 pm

Forget Loving Care...they stopped making it a year ago...not enough people buying it anymore. Clairol makes another product called Beautiful. It's sold at Sally's. Almost identical to Loving Care. The other option (other than Henna) may be Elumen (by Goldwell). Both of these are stains, not dyes. they don't lift color (you can't go lighter). Elumen is working for a few people I know...Beautifulis safest though. If you have a PPD allergy there are many ways that PPD hides...there are about 13 or 14 different names for it. If a person has a PPD sensitivity there is almost always a TDS sensitivity also so you have to be really careful.

Patch tests are okay but you have to do them twice and wait three days between tests. I can patch test with a hair color product andNOTHING HAPPENS...but if I have it put on my head, all hell breaks loose. PPD affects you from INSIDE. It gets in your system and that's why it takes so long for the effects leave. I had sores, flaking ears, and body rashes (to name a few)...next step would probably have been facial swelling or anaphalactic shock. Products with "a little" ppd are just as bad as products with a lot. Think about peanut allergies...you don't have to eat a whole peanut to react.

Dermatologists are the only doctors that are somewhat aware of this. Family docs don't have a clue. Hair stylists are not trained to deal with it - most don't know it exists. The majority say dumb things like, "Try an all natural product"...THERE ARE NONE!!! Look at the ingredient lists on your hair colors or even your shampoos...what is natural about it..not much.

No one does anything about this because of $$$$$$$. All manufacturers know it; they protect themsleves by suggesting patch tests. In Europe PPD was banned for a while...but the companies had a lot of power and now most European products contain small amounts. I have tried products from Italy and Germany...no luck.

I am letting nature take over. I had my hair bleached. It's not pretty (lots of orangy yellow and then some pretty platinum randomly spread around) Oh by the way - if you bleach -you cannot use a toner. Toners contain ppd-like ingredients. Same goes for Blue or purple shampoos meant to tone down orangy bleached hair - they have AZO dyes and cause reactions.

good luck....there are many places on the internet where you will find men and women struggling with this. I guess there aren't enough of us to matter.
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Re: Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby lin1948@q.com » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:31 pm

Hi everyone,
I found out I was allergic to PPD from my Dr. who gave me a web site to explore. TRUE TEST, it gives you info on what products may have PPD. I have found JOHN FRIEDA, products do not have PPD. He has shampoo, conditioners, hair coloring. Look on his web site to get more info. There are several out there also very pricey. Check it out and the best of luck to you. Lin WA.
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