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Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

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Hair Color Without PPD (That's Not Henna)

Postby DCNGA » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:49 pm

I'm terribly allergic to permenant or semi-perm hair color. It's developed over time. I can no longer use hair dye and I have nearly shoulder length hair. Growing out my color with grey coming in will be sooooooooo unsightly :? . Without color, I'm about 40% grey :shock: . My hair is medium brown (sans the grey).

Has anyone else had this problem (allergy to PPD in perm color) and found a solution, other than henna? Can't do the henna thing, either. I know Loving Care has no PPD, but it only lasts 6 or so shampoos :cry: .

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Postby Barbiewannabee » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:43 am

This will probably sound odd, and I could be way off base.

I know your allergic, having said this, what would happen if you had a cap method done, what they used to do for frosting, but color could be added, just a thought, this product wouldn't touch your scalp.

After this is posted someone will come along with a something that I just didn't think of and it will be a dah moment;-)
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Postby DCNGA » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:38 pm

It still gets on the scalp, even in minute amounts. I've had foils to try to get around it, but no luck. The problem with this allergy is that each time you have exposure, the next episode is worse than the last. So, risking having it get on my skin and causing me to have anaphylactic shock the next time is too big of a risk for me now--sort of like what can happen to people allergic to nuts/peanuts. Sigh.

It's so frustrating. The only thing I could/can use is the type of stuff that washes out in 2-3 shampoos. That would cost me LOADS of $$ each month.

Woe is me.
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Postby MrsH » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:09 pm

I use Naturtint which is a vegetable base permanent hair color. I do not know what PPD is but you can go to vitacost and see the ingredients under chemical treated hair in the bath and beauty section. I hope you can find something that works for you.
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Postby DCNGA » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:00 am

Naturtint has PPD.

Ingredient list:

Ingredients:

INGREDIENTS: *NATURTINT: 2.1 fl oz / 60 ml PEG-2 OLEAMINE, AQUA PURIFICATA
(PURIFIED WATER), COCAMIDE DEA, ALCOHOL DENAT (ALCOHOL), PROPYLENE GLYCOL,
ETHANOLAMINE, OLEIC ACID, SODIUM SULFITE, TETRASODIUM EDTA, HYDROLYZED VEGETABLE
PROTEIN (TRITICUM VULGARE, SOY, CORN, AVENA SATIVA), SODIUM
ERYTHORBATE, p-PHENYLENEDIAMINE, 4-CHLORORESORCINOL,
2-AMINO-4-HYDROXYETHYLAMINOANISOLE SULFATE,
N,N,BIS-(2-HYDROXYETHYL)-p-PHENYLENEDIAMINE SULFATE, m-AMINOPHENOL,
4-AMINO-2-HYDROXYTOLUENE.
*COLOR DEVELOPER: 2.1 FL OZ / 60 ML AQUA PURIFICATA (PURIFIED WATER), HYDROGEN
PEROXIDE, CETYL ALCOHOL, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, LAURETH-3, CETEARETH-20, OXYQUINOLINE
SULFATE.
*NUTRIDEEP MULTIPLIER: 1.4 fl. oz./ 40 ML AQUA PURIFICATA (PURIFIED WATER),
QUATERNIUM-83, HYDROLYZED VEGETABLE PROTEIN PG-PROPYL SILANETRIOL C
12-15 ALKYL BENZOATE, PEG-10 GRAPESEED STEROL, CERAMIDE 2, BUTYLENE GLYCOL,
HELIANTHUS ANNUUS (SUNFLOWER SEED EXTRACT),PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL,
PARFUM (FRAGRANCE), IMIDAZOLIDINYL UREA, BENZYL SALICYLATE, HEXYL CINNAMAL,
LIMONENE



Here's a couple of links that explain PPD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Phenylenediamine

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/paraphe ... lergy.html
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Postby MrsH » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:07 am

That totally sucks! Thanks for the info. Now you got me on a mission! I'll be looking and asking around the boards I frequent. If I find anything I will let you know.
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Postby DCNGA » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:36 pm

Thank you. That is very kind of you. I've done extensive searches and have come up empty. I don't want to go dark (but a light to medium brown which is my natural color).

I can't use henna either so look for anything that has Lawsonia inermis--botonical name for henna. They fool you by calling it that instead of henna.
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Henna and Indigo

Postby billie_girl » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:08 am

I never knew someone could have an allergic reaction from Henna, I switched over to Henna and Indigo after the hairdye began irritating the skin around my face. I assume that was an allergic reaction.

Have you tried strong brewed coffee/tea/etc.? Also, I have started using a mixture of Amla/Cassia/Castor oil to get greys to go back to brunette. It seems to be working although it is very very very very slow.
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:16 pm

I did not claim allergy to henna. I just don't want red hair or henna dyes on my hair. The problem with henna dyes is that unless you use skin/body art henna, it can have many, many additives that are equally bad as PPD. For it to last and fade evenly, they must add mineral salts, or PPD to it--otherwise it fades unevenly and will be unsightly.

True henna only comes in one color and I don't want red hair, sorry. I want simple, brown hair (preferably not too dark, but not red). I know you can add AMLA to henna, but it's all unpredictable as to color.

Here are two interesting links (same site) where you can read up on true henna:

http://www.hennaforhair.com/science/

http://www.hennapage.com/henna/warnings.html

But, it is possible to be allergic/sensitive to henna, btw. Quoting from the second link above:

There are very rare allergic reactions to henna, and these are "napthoquinone sensitivity” reactions. If within three hours of henna application, a person becomes very itchy, and wheezes, or has a tight feeling in the chest, they are allergic to natural henna.
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:24 am

[quote="DCNGA"]

True henna only comes in one color and I don't want red hair, [quote]

Yes! Think Lucille Ball, Henna is what she used.
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Postby DCNGA » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:26 pm

I've resorted to that silly Roux FanciFull stuff, that washes out with every shampoo. At least I don't have bright white roots ablazin' right now, just sort of mousy brown ones :? :cry: .

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Actually I get brown hair from Henna and Indigo

Postby billie_girl » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:33 pm

I have been mixing body art quality pure henna, indigo (http://www.hennaforhair.com/indigo/index.html), amla and cassia for brown hair color that covers greys (actually enters the hairshaft, not just cover it) with no brassy undertones. I only have to redo when I have new hairgrowth that shows new grey.

It makes my hair and scalp so much healthier than it was before when I used hair dye. There are many recipes on the Mehandi website for obtaining the desired haircolor along with a ton of information about using and making all natural hair and body care.
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Postby DCNGA » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:22 pm

But, I want NO RED in my hair. I see no way to avoid it (on some level) with true body art quality henna. Can you provide a link for me to a recipe that does not contain henna, will give a medium brown shade. and is predictable? I don't doubt henna makes the hair healthy if you use BAQH, but only if you don't mind red hair (I do). I don't want to put indigo in my hair either as I've read repeatedly that it's nearly impossible to lift and my (old) hair is porous from years of coloring.

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link!

Postby billie_girl » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:49 pm

DCNGA, I pinky swear my hair has no red at all in it :wink: .
Anyhow, here is one of many links I have saved in my favorites.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4516096_revive- ... n=yssp_art

I've used some of these when I was in the same catch 22 as you are in now with the overly porous hair from years of chemical dyes. I focused the natural coloring mixes on my roots in an effort to grow out and cut all the severely damaged strawlike hair. My goal WAS to find a more permanent coloring for my hair because I just didn't want to have to recolor so often. That is why I chose using the henna and indigo. If you are NOT looking for something so permanent then using the walnut and/or coffee recipes might be more to your liking.
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Postby DCNGA » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:47 pm

Why, thank you! I appreciate that. I did a little more research on the walnut shells and several places say it can darken hair quite a bit and be permanent for some people. But, I found a few posts about using Rosemary or Sage to darken brown hair, gradually. Maybe that's the trick for me. Regardless, thank you for helping me to think outside of the (haircolor) box :lol: .

BTW, do you have a recipe for how you do your own hair that you might could post on the DIY board? That would be awesome!

Thanks a lot!

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