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Regular cosmetics and permanent make up

Postby LookinUp » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:16 pm

I have had great luck with the Mac gel liner (the one I use is called 'blitz and glitz' but is basically black--you'd be hardpressed to see the 'glitz'...teeny gold bits)--it comes in a little jar, is not expensive, and lasts forever! I got it on gloss.com when they were offering a fabulous sample package with purchase--they do that about 2-3 times per year--...I use it with a Kolinsky sable brush (can be found on ebay for about 8 dollars)...it has lasted me through swimming in salt water and showering, without smudging.
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Postby baddog » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:42 pm

I had full lip color 1 yr ago and love it. She gave me a better shape and slightly fuller look. You need to find a professional artist to do this, a special ink is used. Regular tattoo ink will fade and turn blue in a short time, so don't go to a tattoo parlor. They use a dental block so there is no pain except for the dental block.That hurt. I will be getting my brows done soon.
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Postby almostfine » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:52 pm

baddog I disagree. I went to a professional office called the
http://www.thenaturallook.net/ and by me being a women of color it didn't take well on my lips. I had my lips done so many times and it still didnt take. I even did the black liner because I wanted and brown color lip liner and it still didn't take. The first 2 days it was dark really dark but it eventually after 2 weeks faded. Now my eyebrows come out great but the lip liner didn't take. I went to another facility to have my lips done and they stated to me the same thing. Women of color it's hard for the lips. Don't know why.
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Postby goldenchick » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:44 pm


I had my eyeliner, brows and lips done.

The eyeliner, I have now had redone 4 times. The last time it actually bled down on the corners under the skin and now they have a downward slant.

The lips I have had done 5 times. Twice in two years. Never really lasts except the outline.

The brows, are OK, but the hair doesn't grow where the lines are so I have to draw them on anyways, and pluck under them.

Bleeding of any tatoo can happen at anytime. I have a tat on my shoulder, and never bled under the skin until the last time, many times later. I had to get the green streaks covered with black smokey looking color.
Be careful.
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Postby apple26 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:58 am


for those who have done it - does the color of the eyeliner change overtime?
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Postby goldenchick » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:33 pm

Yes, it certainly does change. Mine started out black, and is now dark blue.
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Postby jillian0428 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:17 am

do it. everyone i know that has had it done, regrets it. your face changes as you age and the make up will start looking funky. the color changes also and you are better off either using a pencil cuz it looks like eyebrow pencil anyway or getting it done lightly..you can always darken it later
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permanent make up

Postby jillian0428 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:46 am

first of all lip liner wnet out in the 90's. don't do it..it looks like tammy faye baker! Second..I and many friends had ourb rows done. Your face changes as you age and it looks uneven and you spend more time putting powder and cover up on trying to correct it than if you had no eye brows at all. Two of us are getting it taken off and maybe redone at a top place. Don't do it..it does change color..or do it lightly although most of the time it comes off and has to be redone again and again. We all say..don't! And lastly most of the time the eyebrows look like they are eyebrow penciled on which is exactly what you don't want!
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Postby 4evryoung » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:58 pm

I just went for a consultation on the brows last week. This girl is registered and very professional. She does the brows to look like individual hair strokes. I am all ready aged I am 59 and my eyebrows are thin in on the end, and I can't be bothered with pencil at all. I don't want it plus it is hard for me to see so in my case I think it is a good alternative. I am not sure about the eyeline

. I think it looks very nice, forget the lips. I am not at all interested in that--the only thing is I have some grey hairs and I would still need to have them tinted, and waxed. I was hoping to have avoided that task but I still need to do this so she said.
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Postby csexykitty » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:57 pm

I have had my eyebrows tatooed when I was 22 years old. It looked good for a while but it eventually faded. Now I had my upper and lower lids done in 2005. The lower lids took ok but the upper lids did not.
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Postby 4evryoung » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:12 am


What do you mean the upper lids didn't take? There was no color there? The girl I went to is a member and in good standing with SPCP. they have a web site and it is important they are very qualified. She stated to me that touch up's are required. Nothing lasts forever and eventually it does fade so touch ups are needed maybe every 2-3 years she told me. I am still undecided as to what to do. I am thinking of doing the eyes instead of the brows. It is $550 for either. I think if is rather $$$.
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Postby csexykitty » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:48 pm

The upper lids did not take the color. On the left lid, half took color. The right lid barely have color and I had black color put on it. I could have gone for a touch up but I just don't want to go through it again. It hurts and I have a fear of the needle hitting my eyeballs. And you are right 4everyoung that it is very expensive. :(
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Postby Becki32155 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:07 pm

I have had my eyebrows, upper/lower eyeliner, and lipline done a couple of times over the years. I have been very happy every time. But's different for everyone as everyone's skin is different. Research and interview anyone you may be thinking of using before committing. Get all their samples photos. If you can talk to someone who's been there, so much the better.

Make sure what you get is appropriate for your skin type, and plan in advance with the tech what you want. Have her draw it on your face with makeup pencils first for your approval. You don't want any surprises later. I also think "less is more". You can always add more color later but it's pretty hard to get rid of it if you get too much or too bright.

I've been very lucky in this regard. I had everything applied very lightly rather than heavily and I think that also has added to my satisfaction.

The lipliner is the exact same color as my lips and really more or less just enhances natural color a bit and defines the shape.

I can go without lipstick any time I want and really, you cannot tell I have the liner. It's very light but yet, it holds the shape I want.

My upper and lower eyeliner is also thinly applied. I got them done in black and it has never turned color. It has always stayed black. Always. The line just got thinner over time from natural flaking and shedding of skin cells.

My brows also have never changed color. They are a medium brown and have stayed that way. I also have a lot of eyebrow hair and the tattoos I got basically fills in the shape very lightly. My hair covers it up, so I know I am lucky in that regard too. It certainly helps with plucking. I just follow the shape.

I think I have had such good luck because my tech told me from the get go to protect the tattoos, and I have done that by wearing sunscreen on them every day.

I always smear SS on my brows, eyelids and lips when I put it on the rest of my face. When that soaks in, I apply any other makeup I may want.

(of course, you have to be careful not to get SS in your eyes, but I am used to doing it)

The tattoos still fade a bit over time due to the fact that your skin cells constantly shed and these kinds of tatoos are not placed very deeply in your skin, so essentially, they flake off over time.

They are not put into the skin on your face nearly as deeply as tattoos on your shoulder or arm. It's also a different kind of ink, so of course it won't last as long a battleship on a sailor's chest, LOL.

My tech said they are supposed to last 7 to 10 years.

I've never waited to get to that point though. I usually wait about three years and then just get them touched up.

I've been immensely happy with them and don't regert it at all. I think the key thing is find a good technician and make sure they know what you really want before you get it done. Look at their examples and do your research.

And please be warned...when you get it done, it look VERY harsh and dark at first. I was appalled. But within a week, the excess had all flaked off and I had a nice, natural look. I just thought I would throw that in because people don't always tell you that. 8)

Do NOT go to the first person you find or go by the cheapest price.

And (I can't stress this enough) protect the tattoos from the sun. They will last a lot longer if you do.

It's not for everyone so take your time before you do it.

While it's not really "forever" permanent, it still lasts a pretty darn long time.
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Postby 4evryoung » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:14 am


Thank-you for sharing with me your experience with the subject at hand. I am having the brows done tomorrow. She is board certified with that permanant make-up society and is in good standing with them. She has drawn exactly what I want so we are on the same page. I will have this first then the eyeliner later. I see that thicker brows are now in but you know how the style changes. She also does the individual hair strokes. I have seen many pictures. She is very good and I feel confident with her. I will let you know how I like it---wish me luck. Thanks again.
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Postby Happychick1978 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:08 pm

I had mine done by a lady called Heidi Worman, she is well known, I posted on here last year http://forum.sofeminine.co.uk/forum/bea ... brows.html

she was brill, did not feel a thing.

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