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please help....freakin ....endotine cheek and brow

please help....freakin ....endotine cheek and brow

Postby knowidea » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:18 am

on tuesday it will be three weeks since my endotine mid face and brow lift...i so regret doing this to my self. it was such a major thing.....i go back to work this friday and i'm nervous about what people will say....

my brows are higher then i want..i have no wrinkles on my forehead and my brows don't move normaly...i'm wondering if those things will change??i just noticed tonight that my hairline is moved up..

one of my cheeks although bigger looksok the other one is bulging in the front and i believe the endotines are placed slightly differently...

does anyone else regret taking such drastic measures??? i don't think i researched enough... does anyone have any words to calm me down?? thanks in advance =)
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Postby Blondecat » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:29 am

You should be hearing from 2dogs soon. She had this done and can fill you in on much needed info. I do know that her brow now looks quite relaxed and pretty. The "element of surprise" leaves in a few months and it does relax quite nicely. The endotines take about a year to disolve and it is a longer recovery than a no endotine approach, HOWEVER ---- 2dogs still looks like a school girl with her plumped up cheeks.
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Postby lasafor » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:33 am

It's a little to soon,you will still be healing,give it time.
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Postby 2dogs » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:16 am

Blondecat...I see you are trapping cats again. Knowidea, my heart goes out to you, but you will NOT be able to hurry this along any. Yes, my brows were too high and frozen. Yes, one cheek like BIG ROCK the other like SMALLER ROCK.....tender, tender and swollen. I started to look reasonable at about 6-8 weeks, much better at 10-12. After that it was just a puffy swelling that only my husband, best friends and I were aware of. I'm STILL puffy at 9 months on a bad day. These surgeons don't understand woman at all---for ANY face lift, to say you can go about your normal life in 2 weeks...they DON'T have a clue how good we have to feel we look to go to work or out to socialize. "Marginal" just doesn't do it for a woman and they DON'T GET THIS! So get ready to shrink your social calendar for the next 6 weeks. I went to a wedding at 7 weeks...

The brow will come back first.. don't regret it yet...I'm very happy with the result....the raising of the cheekpad (and with the endotines, it's not going to fall back down!) looks very nice and natural, and Blondecat is right, my eyebrows are back at home base. Try to relax, be patient. And other questions?

Keep healing!
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Postby knowidea » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:39 am

thank you for your replys... i feel a liiitttle better,,,maybe

i have been hiding out with my sister in another town and i work and LIVE in company housing in a small mountain resort town, so i'm in close contact with my fellow employs and i'm so scard of going back (this friday) ahhhhh people will say how could you do this to your self and i liked the way you looked before and right now thats how i feel so how can i face them and not make a big deal and act casualy???? my ps bet me a thousand dollars no one will know bot i thonk i'm gonna win....lol

what will i do????
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Postby knowidea » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:43 am

also...


will the wrinkles in my forehead come back???the horizantal ones i look too youg believe it or not (i'm 45) and this is too smooth...

how long before my skull feels normal?

will my hairline come down too??

thanks again
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Postby 2dogs » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:16 am

Yes, your brow is in the honeymoon stage and your former wrinkles will come back. I'm not sure what you mean about your hairline...where does it seem "off"? The tingling in the skull will take months but the worst of it will be gone by about 2 months, if I remember right. At 9 months, I still have a numb spot right on top when I touch it.
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Postby knowidea » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:50 pm

hello 2dogs thanks for your reply,

my hairline is higher then it was before ...i didn't notice till last night and i liked my hair line where it was and didn't realize it would change with an endo lift....yours didn't go up?

i think i was having an anxity attack when i wrote the first message

feeling calmer now......i still wish i hadn't done this but maybe i'll be happier later, after healing more

the cheek also looks like it has gone down a little since last night too =)

when the cheeks go down will i lose all the lift in the bottom of my face around my mouth?


also my brow is more then tingling it NUMB like wood or something...was this your experience?

i REALLYappreciate any and all feedback i can get ...i don't want to go into any detail with my family or the two friends i told ....so please anything you can tell me that you think would be helpful
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Postby 2dogs » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:32 pm

No I didn't lose hair up by the "bangs" area, but I did along one side...back in the scalp where the temple incision was, and on the actual hairline from the top of the ear all the way up. It really bothered me, but my hairdresser and PS told me it would come back and it did. Takes time though! (6 months and now I have a lot of short hairs!)

Yes, there is some wrinkling and softening of the pull around the mouth...even though the cheeks remain high. I think the swelling causes the "honeymoon" phase. so don't get too hooked on that smooth young look because it WILL deflate and wrinkle a bit.

Yes, your head feels like a block of driftwood. Normal!

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Postby TwinA » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:36 pm

knowidea wrote:thank you for your replys... i feel a liiitttle better,,,maybe

i have been hiding out with my sister in another town and i work and LIVE in company housing in a small mountain resort town, so i'm in close contact with my fellow employs and i'm so scard of going back (this friday) ahhhhh people will say how could you do this to your self and i liked the way you looked before and right now thats how i feel so how can i face them and not make a big deal and act casualy???? my ps bet me a thousand dollars no one will know bot i thonk i'm gonna win....lol

what will i do????


Hi knowidea. I'm on the 'other side' of the facelift....that is, I haven't had the surgery yet. It sounds like you are doing what I wonder if I, myself, will do after my surgery. Have a "period of mourning" for my "old" face. :cry: I suspect this is a very natural reaction. That simply "refreshed looking" face that we hope to achieve post-facelift, does not, apparently (from what I've learned here!), surface for weeks...months. So, what stares back at us from the mirror is this alien visage, this new woman who we not only don't recognize, but don't want to know!

It's such a relief to read posts like 2 dogs' and others...who tell it like it is and reassure us on what "reality" is vs. the pie-in-the-sky timelines of our plastic surgeons! And it does sound like all the things troubling you right now are things that are resolved over a realistic healing time.

I SO understand your feelings about dealing with your co-workers. It's so natural to anticipate the worst. But like the cliche (and Dr. Phil!) goes, "people treat you the way you ask to be treated." If you are open, upbeat and positive about your surgery and your reasons for doing it, then others will no doubt follow your lead. You can be honest about the swelling and the time element involved....as well as your enthusiasm for the 'finished product.' (I've been very open with friends. As for others whom I know less well, I'll just say that I was starting to look a bit "tired," and I just want to look on the outside, the way I feel inside. :) I KNOW people will be curious...and I hope to be open and share the experience in an upbeat way.

As for your feelings about the surgery itself...are your regrets more about the immediate outcome (the swelling, hairline, etal)?...or is it more about losing your "old self?" Either way, it will take time. I KNOW I'll have a twinge about my 'old self,' after the surgery...I know it! But I keep reminding myself exactly why I want to do this...which is to keep this "old self" looking the way it does a few years more. :)

This whole facial surgery thing is fraught with psychological issues. And that - on top of the physical reality - is quite a challenge to take on. Knowidea, we totally understand your anxiety. The best advice I can give you is to take to heart the words of those here who have been at the place you are now. There is still a road of healing ahead - physical and emotional - and so many people here have travelled it. So...take heart from what they say and take one day at a time. Remember "why" you chose this route, trust your instincts and look forward to that lovely woman (the new "old you") you envisioned at the end of your journey. :)

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Postby knowidea » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:16 pm

thank you TwinA for all your kind words....

I had thought about doing something for quite a while but when i made it happen i just pushed it through and made it happen fast because if i had thought about it too i wouldn't have gone through with it.i do miss my old self....my eyes arnt quite my eyes anymore....i really didn't need to do this...could have used the money much more productivly....

2dogs how long do you think it will take for my cheeks to go down? you said 6 weeks...you mean 6 weeks from from the 3 weeks it has already been right? i read other posts somewhere where they said 2 or 3 months..

i just feel like whinning about what i don't like about my face and what i did,,but i wont bore you alll

what about changing hair styl so my co workers wont notice? my ps had said that no one will know.. i'll just look refreshed but if one of them came back looking aas different as i do i would know....
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Postby 2dogs » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:27 pm

I think in another 3 weeks you will look more "yourself" to others, but still swollen and funny to you. Yes, it will take many months for ALL the swelling to go, but you'll get rid of most of it by 3 months. After that, the last 20% is a slow slow thing, at least it's been for me. My PS says that my endotines have dissolved, and I agree (I'm at 9 months) because my cheeks feel more human now, not like "rocks". The residual swelling has been along the jawline, right by the joint that's hinged that moves when you open your mouth. Still numb there, too. Don't get discouraged...I was back to a full life at 2 months....I just didnt look as good then as I do now.

Hang in there! This too will pass!
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Re: please help....freakin ....endotine cheek and brow

Postby heartsong » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:13 pm

Hey there, realized not long after I got these that I made a huge mistake! It's been exactly 5 weeks tomorrow and I so far from looking normal! I had a browlift, coapt cheek lift and a necklift and really regret it, also. How did you make out at about the 6-8 week zone? I am getting out, but cannot deal with the huge, swollen cheeks. The endotine idea is not working for me. I don't know how anyone can really handle it. The old fashioned way is much better, apparently.

The swelling is still there, not to mention loss of appetite, hard time sleeping, panicky, digestive upsets. I wouldn't wish this on anyone

I have had to tell each person that is close to me (minus guys, since they don't really notice much). Of course, my husband is wearing thin from my great disappointment. I have a family social event this weekend and another big one in less than 2 weeks. :oops: I am so ashamed and embarrassed that I did not do more research, but kept hearing how this doctor does such great work. Of course, he is the inventor of the endotine by Coapt so he would keep touting it. I try not to run into anyone that really knows me. Doctor said you wouldn't be able to notice the cheek "implants" cause they are so small and then dissolve. Ha! I told him I had high cheekbones already, "not a problem."
I have had nightmares and I feel like I am living in a nightmare. I am going to have to keep telling people some phony line or expose myself. How did you handle this, KnowIdea?
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Re: please help....freakin ....endotine cheek and brow

Postby dangerouscurves » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:41 pm

heartsong
Sorry you are experiencing bad feelings about your procedure with endotines.
I had them and I am quite satisfied with my outcome. A facelift is a roller coaster ride full of emotions! Hang on you will get thru this. These endotines will give you a great final look you will be happy with.
The endotines bothered me daily for the first 7 weeks until some of the swelling gave way in the cheek / temple areas. One side hurt more than the other. It's the swelling that distorts and causes tenderness where they are placed. My right temple area was the worst cuz that is where the strap piece of the endotine gets sutured.
Did you see the endotine before surgery. It's very tiny. It's used to pull up the cheek area. In a few months scar tissue forms, the endotine dissolves and you are left with beautifully placed cheeks!
Not many surgeons use them but those who do give their patients great facelifts.
I am totally happy with my results.
Be patient you need more healing to get past the swelling. We are our own worst critics and see things that others will not notice.
I know you will get the results you desire.
Go have fun and enjoy yourself. The busier you keep yourself takes your mind off the situation. You will heal and be beautiful!
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Re: please help....freakin ....endotine cheek and brow

Postby TracyS » Wed May 02, 2012 7:36 am

Midface lifts take 3-6 months to settle......3 weeks I still had major bruising. People will say....what did you do? And you will say...I had a face lift....and they will say wow...you are brave, nuts, OMG! I want one...whatever.....just saying so you wont be nervous. They will be curious....BUT they would be even more so if you suddenly started wearing a hijab and pronounced yourself muslim or headscarfes and Jackie Onassis sunglasses.

This healing business takes time. The people wont eat you. No need to be afraid, shrug it off and get your sense of humor back....this too shall pass and you wont have to wonder what you would look like if you just tweaked this...or that....
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