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CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

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CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:40 pm

I've had rhinoplasty and chin reduction abroad which I'm happy with. I was also booked for CO2 laser alongside it all but it was cancelled for a week, as the surgeon said he'd have to laser around my cast/bandage round my nose (?). So I waited until I could do my full face (though I still have a smaller bandage on my nose).

I haven't done my research, as I thought it was fully ablative CO2; but in a correspondence email "fractional" is mentioned once (in conversation and in documentation it's all, "CO2 laser" only). D'oh me.

Even more strangely, 2 days ago I had to go under anaesthetic for an hour during the treatment (I thought fractionals only need topical cream?). The anaesthetist said that my treatment should only take "half an hour or so". My downtime is to be only about 5-7 days (I know only too well: less downtime=less remodelling).

I woke to a reasonably red face, some dots of blood..to be honest, I was a bit disappointed when I looked in the mirror. It was similar to how I appear after using a 1.5mm Dermaroller (Dr Roller; which I used a four times with EMLA cream, every few months, and gave me zero results).

I was prescribed painkillers/antibiotics afterwards (I'm not uncomfortable/in pain). After wiping my face with vaseline/cotton pads the first night, my face was red but otherwise pretty normal. Some track marks but nothing that suggests any miracles. Slight expression lines (not at all that deep)/texture is still visible underneath the dots.

And for this I paid around £1000. I've emailed to ask which fractional laser was used, but I can't help but feel depressed about it. I was longing for a total resurfacing of my skin, yet I read earlier that profractional lasers only require topical creams and take several treatments to show any results. Some fractionals are recommended to be used for 3/4/5 sessions, every few weeks! A lot of the stuff I'm reading about fractional laser, results-wise, isn't encouraging.

On EDS forum they really dislike Fraxel particularly, which is giving me a sinking feeling again :( One link even suggested that "For example, a Fraxel™ SR treatment session can range from approximately £250 - £350 for one small area of the face or neck to £750 for a full face or décolletage (the area between the neck and breasts) treatment.
A Pixel® 2940 treatment session can start from approximately £300 for a full face treatment."
:( (!!)

Happy to post pictures, if it helps.
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:00 am

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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:32 am

15 minutes ago, pictures of my forehead (my worst bit), without Vaseline, as that tends to make the skin look glossier than it is!

48 hours after fractional CO2 :( :

Pictures still aren't showing, trying again:

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6086/1312crop.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2353/1313crop.jpg

The top of my nose, between my eyebrows is still swollen; there's usually a scar/dent there. I have vertical veins that run alongside there which go right up my head and drive me crazy!

What are my options? Do you think it was worth £1000, is that the going rate? Should I ask if I can get the procedure redone more aggressively? Or should I have been informed that this is a resurfacing method that's culmative (according to what I'm reading)?
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:47 pm

There's no "anyone" in this thread, just me talking to myself..no-one has replied yet :(

I'll assume your reply was trying to be helpful (?). I've done LOTS of at-home chemical peels, progressing carefully and slowly. The last one I did was Original Skin Store Jessner's Peel (one layer) and two layers of 25% TCA.

I even did around 10 days of Efudix and Retin-A around 4 months ago (not for the faint-hearted, and only to be done under extreme caution; I have a thread about it with pictures on EDS Forum).

Unfortunately for me, doing this, and my other skincare tools (tried Dermaroller 1.5mm a few times, spaced months apart conservatively, using Retin-A nearly every night, Vitamin C in the mornings, meticulous sunscreen, Anti-Aging Lightstim every 2 days or so) have resulted in my skin barely changing. CO2 was to be my last chance saloon for resurfacing.

The surgeon's representative replied and said that the treatment is called Tre-amplus (?). Can't see anything about it online anywhere. She even said to send pictures when I've healed. Er, but I was normal within 3 days!! No oozing, crusting, peeling, nothing.

I've been so down the last few days and feel like I've spent £1000 on a treatment which has yielded no results. Really hoping someone has a reply for me :cry:
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:59 am

I got another reply: "so the name of the device is MultiXel TL, CO2 fractional laser. This is the most powerful derma-surgical ultra-puls laser with digital scanner. MultiXel is a scanning type fractional ultra-pulse CO2 laser, in which the surgeon can control freely Scan Area, Density Level and Beam Degree.

This is the strongest laser we have at the clinic, other lasers are V-beam, Aesthera, Accent."

Can anyone help? Please? Nobody seems to have any answers, and the surgeon's representative isn't really helping.

All I could find was this, via Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... b9f80563ff
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby amber11 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:31 am

Please everyone go to someone who is really experienced. I went to Dr. Aamer Khan of Harley Street Skin and now I am permanently scarred. He was not a dermatologist- but a GP. He lied to me and has ruined his skin. He should be struck off the GMC.
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby newme2010 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:37 am

This post is for louloulou.......what is it you are wanting to change about your face? I guess I am confused since I saw your picture and you look fine, great even! I have only had v beam laser done to erase some broken capillaries on my cheeks so I don't have any experience in the peels you are having done and im probably not much help to you but just was wondering what you are trying to fix. :?
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:02 pm

Thanks for replying :)

I suppose you'd have to see my skin in person. Of course it's not the worst, but I've had the dodgy skin texture from puberty :s The dent between my eyebrows is invisible because I have massive swelling post-rhinoplasty (nearly 4 weeks post-op, 3 weeks since the fractional).

I wanted a more even texture, a little skin tightness, to get rid of the pores and a few acne scars I have. I really do feel that the £1000 I spent for one session and sedation was too much, and being in the Czech Republic, where it's cheaper, annoys me even more! I wanted a really kickass resurfacing (on acne.org and other places some Fractional CO2 after pictures are pretty gory). Fractional tends to be done as a course, something else I wasn't told about.

The clinic ignored most of my questions (the original documentation they sent was for the "old" CO2) and just gave me the name of the laser. Needless to say, I won't be back.
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:42 pm

JosephLewis wrote:Hi louloulou,

I've had the same dodgy skin texture from my teenage years.

If you want a cheap amazing resurfacing procedure such then you need to go to The Hospital Group.


Ive recently had chemical peels and my skin finally after nearly seven years looks smooth and fresh.

How is your skin taking to soap and other bathroom lotions?

:)
JosephLewis, I respectfully ask that you read the 5th post in this thread. Again.

Yes, I do chemical skin peels. I've done just about everything!!
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby MrsBoots » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:44 pm

Hi, it seems you got the fractional which would take many visits to equal 1 CO2 full ablative laser resurfacing job.

I don't know anything about in your country, but definatly next time see a Plastic Surgeon!!!! As you know, a general practioner will use only what is available and may not have had the more expensive equipment or knowledge?

1000 pounds is about 1500 dollars?

I had full face laser (ablative is where it takes ALL your skin off :-) but also had fat fill done and my bill including the anthestialogist and nurses and such), was just over $5,000. I don';t know how much it is without the fat fill, but look at some older posts and I bet you could find that.

Maybe that could be your clue next time to what they are saying, the more expensive procedures, like a full CO2 laser full face would run much more than 1000 pounds right?

Also there is NO-ONE that looks at our skin more critical then us, right? Gosh how I used to peer into the mirro so close to LOOK for things I could see that were wrong with my skin. After I healed and feel good about my skin I can stay that I quit looking so close and being too critical of things other people can not even SEE!

Don't know if I have helped, but I'm sorry others haven't popped in to post... there were a bunch of us that had CO2 type full faces done last Feburary... I see only a few posting now. Hope you find a great Plastic Surgeon and get some new answers for what you want done.

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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby louloulou » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:09 pm

Hi Mrs Boots,

Thanks for replying (gave up looking at this thread as it was a little quiet, just popped back in to look). My problem with it is that they advertised it as just "CO2 laser", no mention of "fractional" until the night before it. I was in the Czech Republic, which is considerably cheaper.

Seems that fractional is a cumlative thing, and it has be a reasonable depth (mine certainly wasn't), which I should have researched about beforehand. In fact on some acne forums, even a course of fractionals can be hit or miss..which is why I wanted the full shebang ablative variety.
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Re: CO2 Fractional Laser Questions About Cost, Results Etc

Postby CathyJo » Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:29 pm

here is a great site about the healing process
http://www.locateadoc.com/understand-yo ... =12&aid=54
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