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Under Eye "Bags" After Under Eye Erbium Laser

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Under Eye "Bags" After Under Eye Erbium Laser

Postby DCNGA » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:46 pm

I had under eye erbium laser on December 18, along with a couple of other procedures. Before the laser I did have a tiny area under one eye that had a puffy area, but not right under the eye but sort of on the cheekbone. My doc said that small area may or may not go away after the FL and laser, but he never said it would get worse, because now I have the same kind of puffy area under both eyes. The puffiness/bag stretches from one side of my cheekbone all the way across. It is not your typical under eye bags as they are not in the area that was lasered (the hollow area under the eyes) but below that. Maybe it is lymphatic drainage of some sort?

Has anyone else experienced this type of puffiness/bags after laser? If so, did it get better with time?

I'm calling my PS in the morning to see what he can offer as to what is going on, but was hoping someone might have experienced this problem.

Thanks,

D
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Postby skinquest » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:52 am

I had what I would call a huge pouch under each eye after CO2 that lasted four days. I wondered if it was a blister that would burst, but was told that it was expected. Like I said, it only lasted four days, but it was the scariest thing.

I was told not to have any other procedures with the CO2. After going through it, I can see why. I don't think I could have handled any more, physically or psychologically, than I did. I would think that you're possibly having more after-effects, versus complications, because of multiple procedures, but that's just a guess. I hope I'm right. That is quite a while after your procedure. I'd be curious to hear what your doctor says.
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Erbium Laser

Postby wheels4racing » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:32 pm

Does Erbium laser help with fine wrinkles around eye area? Does it help to tighten skin under the eyes?
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:03 pm

It is supposed to do both. My fine lines are pretty much gone, but I can tell when I smile that over time they will be back. The laser process is supposed to cause the production of new collagen over the course of several months. I think Co2 does the same thing, but I'm not positive. Erbium is supposed to also have a faster healing time than Co2.

With all of that said, I don't think I would do any lasering under my eyes again. The first few days after the procedure are grueling and HIGH maintenance. Also, the area under the eyes can stay fairly, noticably pink for several months. I'm having to wear very heavy concealer to hid the reddish pink and probably will for several more weeks.

I just don't know if it will all be worth it in the long run, especially if these bags under my eyes don't go away. They were not there before the laser, so I'm pretty ticked that I have them now.

D
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Postby wheels4racing » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:04 pm

When did you have Erbium done? Do you still have bags? Is it still red?
Thank you so much for letting me know.
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Postby DCNGA » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:47 am

I had all of my procedures done on December 18.

There's another thread under this section about others who've had Co2 while I've had erbium. It's a good thread and you may want to read it also.

YES, I am still quite pinkish and at times (depending on time of day, if I bend over, take a bath, wash my face, etc.) that under my eyes is downright red.

I'm still having to wear dermablend cover up to hide the areas under my eyes and I still have the bags. Wearing so much makeup is very upsetting to me--I feel like I look like a tired clown! I could not get to my PS on Friday as my flight home was delayed (I travel for my job). I can't go back to see him about my dissatisfaction until the end of February due to my travel schedule. I'm hoping some of this will have resolved by then.

I would NEVER DO THIS AGAIN. Everyone is different and some get good results from their laser work, that was just not what happened for me. The upkeep/healing time afterwards was exhausting and the results were not as good as I hoped, plus these damn bags under my eyes will not go away!!!

My derm , who does my Restylane and collagen, said I should have used a peel instead of laser. He used to do laser but stopped (for fine lines/wrinkling) when many of his patients were not satisfied with the pain/upkeep post-op and the final results (wrinkles returning more quickly than expected). I had a TCA (whole face) for acne scarring in the early 90's and it lasted for many years (around 1999) as far as fine wrinkles. It was brutal for the first couple of days afterwards, but by day 10 it was pretty good and the pink/red was nearly 100% gone by 1 month. I should have consulted my derm before getting the laser---live and learn.

D
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Stem Cells

Postby wheels4racing » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:44 pm

Dear D,
So sorry to hear about that. I am sure you will be fine soon enough. I decided to save my money and invest it into stem cells vs spendin it on stupid fillers. Open the link.
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Postby maci » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:57 pm

DCNGA,
Didn't you also have a brow lift? Maybe the swelling around your eyes is due to that.
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Postby vikx » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:48 pm

I had an upper and lower bleph along with the CO2. That was the only place on my face which didn't hurt and/or swell. Also had a little fat injected into the lines from nose to mouth. (Smile grooves?) 2 weeks before the CO2, I had botox injections at eye laugh lines, between my eyes and my forehead. It seems to keep your muscles from reacting while you're being lasered. Or should I say blowtorched?

I had a brow lift and the muscle cut at the scowl between the eyes in February 06. It really worked! The scowl was an inherited deep and mean looking groove. Much better after the surgery and after the laser is not there. Of course the Botox may have something to do with that, though I used it before the CO2 and the scowl was still visible.

My eyes look good. My face-well-it's red with white speckles. I had several little pre-cancerous areas on my forehead (wear my hair pulled back, high forehead) which are totally and completely gone. Fine laugh lines at my eyes are gone. Deeper wrinkles on my upper lip and on my chin are still visible; maybe a little less noticeable. One real plus: the little red veins on my nose are all gone! So there are good results. Was it worth it? Time will tell.

My Doc is very careful and a perfectionist. He would not do the brow lift and laser at the same time. (Thank you!) He even suggested a less invasive procedure but I was determined to have CO2 since it's supposed to give the best results. I will never do it again.

DCNGA, have you thought of having a bleph? Would it help the bags under your eyes? Of course, waiting until you're fully healed. The best thing I ever did on my face was my eyes. The improvement was amazing. Keep us informed. VK
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Postby DCNGA » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:26 pm

I did have an endo brow lift, but the bags (mostly under left eye now) are not from that. I had a tiny, tiny little area under my left eye that was kind of puffy (these bags are NOT directly under my eye in the hollow, but really more on my cheek bone) before I had any of these procedures. I asked him about that area before the surgery and he said it may or may not get better (but it was barely noticable even to him, he said), but he NEVER said it would get worse. Now the puffy area, stretchs and curves with with cheek bone towards the inner corner of my eye.

I have high cheek bones, so the bag plopped directly under the highest part of my cheekbone, makes me look like I've been socked in the eye and it's puffy. I honestly think this is from lymphatic drainage, so I'm going to a medical spa this weekend and see if they agree. I travel and can't get back to the doctor until the third week of February to see what he thinks.

Under both of my eyes is still quite bright pink. The wrinkles that were under my eyes are fineer lines now but I can see every wrinkle I had before, just more shallow. To hear my PS talk before the surgery, he said I would be SO HAPPY with the results of the laser and all of the lines would be nearly invisible. NOT TRUE. Yes, they are better but they are definitely visible. I can tell that with very little time and smiling/sleeping on the side of my face, they will return to their previous depth and I'll be back where I started much sooner than I ever expected.

I am happy with my brow lift and my eyes are more open now than before. It's probably what I'm happiest with having done. I hate this numbness and wooden feeling, but I know it won't (hopefully) last forever.

I just want my eyes to be to a point that I don't have to wear all of this concealer for the redness (which actually accents the silly bag(s) under my eye(s) ).

Done complaining for today. I'm sick of listening to myself!

I'll keep you guys updated.

D
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Postby ashtin49 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:06 am

Hi DCNGA,

Sorry you are not thrilled with your laser results. What does your doc say about the results? DId you tell him you were not thrilled? Do you know how many microns they used?

Thanks,
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:47 pm

I have not been back (due to traveling for my work) to the doctor since day 14 after my surgery. I cannot return to see him until the middle of February due to my work.

I have no idea how many microns they used. I never asked, but guess I should have. I'll find out when I go at the end of Feb.

D
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Postby bizzylizzy » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:23 am

I just wanted to say that I also have new under eye bags after having a full face v-beam laser 3 weeks ago...I thought the puffiness from v-beam would be gone by now, but no! I wasn't told this could be a side effect, and I'm starting to worry the bags are permanent. I have appt. #2 this week, and I will ask the dr. about this, and I'm doubting I'll have the 2nd v-beam now.
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:03 am

I've come to think that maybe my under eye bags are actually malar bags and the erbium's rutting out under my eyes (skin layers have not totally regrown yet) makes the malar mounds/festoons extremely noticable because of a demarcation line between the mounds and the lower skin layers under my eyes.

My bags are not directly where the lasering was done, but more on my cheek bones.

Woe is me.

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