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Do you really think 1500 dollars is worth 'slight' improvement? If it doesn't revert back in another 3-4 weeks, I'll be very surprised. If you end up with damage, it takes a while for it to 'show' itself. It is not obvious right away.
I don't know what type of "damage" I'm supposed to see that is delayed, as you state, but I would say all of these procedures are only as good as the person who is performing them. I would not let anyone but a doctor perform any of these procedures on me, and I know most offices use other types of practitioners for these and other procedures like botox, fraxel, IPL, etc. As I said, I really can't say if 1,500.00 is worth it since it has only been 3 weeks. It's very unfortunate you had such a terrible experience, but I would really love to know what type of side effects you had.
I didn't have any...but the local news here did a story, as did allure magazine. If you go to the FDA's website, there are countless formal complaints....when the doctors buy the equipment for tens of thousands of dollars, they want to recoup their investments and then some! (I work with physicians/surgeons, and have for over 20 years). One woman on here posted pics of the 'divots' in her face. Facial fat loss is very common--and something you definitely do NOT want as you age! It is not true that the procedure is "only as good as the person who performs it"...maybe with fillers and inumerous other procedures, but not with Thermage! I had a PS do mine, because I was having other surgical procedures at the same time. Thermage has a very specific protocol...with specific settings, timer, facial grids, etc.
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Hi, Just want to put my two cents in. I am another one with no damage but also NO RESULTS. Thermage does give a slight improvement to 20%, that is if you are under 30 and have thin skin. Check out Pub Med, the research on case studies showed that none of the patients involved in the Thermage study would have it done again. The results were too minimal for the pain of Thermage, and they received the treatment free.
I wish I would have found this thread [and others here] before I had the thermage. I did my neck and jawline.
Until my very late 40's, I had a great jawline an neck and so it was hard on my vanity to see the skin getting loose and wrinkled. It probably wasn't that bad - but I swear I couldn't look at a mirror without hating it. So I "had" to have thermage.
If anything, thermage made it worse. Now the loose skin is pleated and dimpled. I'm not exaggerating. I went to a VERY reputable PS, too. The used the newest state-of-the-art machine and the revised protocol. The only good thing I can say is that at least now I won't wonder constantly "what if". I know. Thermage doesn't help. I feel like the fool who bought the Brooklyn Bridge.
When I was 50 (3 years ago) I went to a good PS and requested Thermage. He wasn't pushing it at all, but I wanted it - he convinced me to also have my platysma chords in my neck surgically fixed (they sew them together and eliminate the chordy stringly look). He told me Thermage would only be good for about 2 years. Anyway I did it, and was ultimately (within the next 3-6 months) very pleased with the result, as was my husband. After about 2 years, it wore off, and on 12-06, I had a lower face lift. I had gone in wanting something less invasive again, but he said I was probably happy with my result last time in good part due to his surgery, as much or more than the Thermage. Anyway, he convinced me that PS was more effective and practical in my case, and I am very happy with the results -I think I am old enough, and was sagging enough that thermage wouldn't have much of an impact. I am still basically happy with how it did go though - I looked better for a couple of years.....
I have to say, at 61, I had considered the thread lift procedure, but was mortified to learn how invasive a procedure, with three weeks of recovery to follow. After discussing my options, decided to go ahead with the Thermage.
For people who are considering this procedure, look up board certified MDs. Why would you go anywhere else?????? This not a WalMart treatment!!!!
Do your homework, make your (informed) decision, then live with your choices.
I am extremely happy with the results. I hesitate to add, I don't look like Cher or other extreme-rebuilt celebs, but I look great.
Some nurse practitioners are better 'trained' in thermage than board certified md's. It isn't brain surgery. Most PS MD's prefer to concentrate on surgery and are so packed, they don't have time for some of the other procedures and to take thorough training in it.
I had thermage twice--once shortly after introduction, when it was touted on Oprah. No results. It was so clearly no results, that they didn't even try to claim I looked "refreshed, blah, blah..." Just said "Too bad, it doesn't work for everybody..." Believe it or not, I was actually convinced to try it again with the new tips and protocols (blah blah blah) and again....ta da: No results. I do consider myself fortunate not to have any complications.
Also, I was told by the second doc that despite the "no visible" results, thermage is supposed to build collagen in the deeper layers of the skin (blah blah blah) that should be of benefit for antiaging, over the longer term (even if the results are not visible immediately). I believe this is, technically, possible, and the doc claims thermage does have the studies to prove this (measurable increases, as opposed to "yeah, looks younger, less wrinkled, etc.)And in truth, my skin is pretty darn firm, resilient, and elastic for my age. Did the thermage help? Hard to say...was it worth the $ and risk of complications? I don't think so, and I will NOT do it again!
hi, I was thinking about having thermage around my eyes, then I logged on to this and some other forums and read all the horror stories, i was really upset for all the people whos faces have been scarred, but also really dissapointed, my eyes are so baggy, and i really wanted this treatment , also the treatment is being very heavily promoted in london, with all kinds of celebrities on t.v going for it, I couldnt understand why, when there have been so many cases of fat loss reported in the U.S.
so I've spent a lot of time researching, this is what i have found out.
it seems that when the thermage was first introduced - in the u.s, there was no discrepancy between the heat setting used for cullulite and fat area reduction - it has to be really hot to melt the fat cells.
and skin tightening - not so hot should only heat up the dermis to stimulate collagen production.
In london now, there are two thermage alternatives, one is called alumi, this uses a procees of sucking the skin into the device to heat it, i didnt like the sound of it.
there is another called accent, it uses two different levels of RF - mono polar - hot, fat dissolving and bipolar, less hot, skin tightening, applied through two different heads, its bieng used bya reputable doctor - dr bowler, in a dermatology clinic in london , on his research paper it says it is 90% successfull, the 10% that is not successfull just doesnt work very well.
I have just been to see a doctor in london, for a clinical trial for fillers, he is also very reputable and he uses thermage with fraxel for face tightening and refinfing, so my opinion is that thermage must have now changed the heat settings for their treatments, otherwise it wouldnt be supplied here.
but if you are going to have this treatment or the accent, make sure you thoroughly research the practice and the doctor that is going to perform it !
the accent has only been used here since april this year so i will wait a while before i have it, but it does sound like they have worked out that you cant heat the fat calls in the face.
The RF hasn't changed....the hype has....after so much bad publicity...they had to do something (my daughter is in public relations and marketing, and she opened my eyes up to so many things)....so they keep saying it is improved...when the stronger settings, primary tips, etc. didn't work, they introduced a 'new and improved' version. That didn't work either....if you were getting no results (which is most of the time) and the stronger settings didn't work...how is less going to work better? As far as research papers...does this doc perform Thermage? Who funded the research? Some docs get perks from the company but nothing 'publicly' yet he is in the company's pocket one way or another. Just some things to think about...if there is at best a 20% even partial success rate--is it really worth the money? And it isn't permanent, either in the absolute best of scenarios.
I was pleased by my results from Thermage. It helped my jowls and tightened my eye lids. However, I did not have big saggy jowls or very loose eye lid skin and that is why I think that my outcome was very good.
Just a follow up to my May 24th post - it's been a couple more months and my neck is worse. The pleats and dimples under my chin are more pronounced than when I last posted. I went to my regular PS - and he and his partner both looked at my neck and said that I probably had uneven "fat dissolving". I am a naturally thin person - but it's still noticable. They said that they've purposely stayed away from the machine because with a 50% [at best] satisfaction rate and a relatively high rate of bad results like mine, they think thermage is a rip-off. Again, this was the new machine/procedure and I went to a very well-regarded PS. I can't say how much I regret the thermage.
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