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I'm another dissatisfied Thermage patient. I had it done last year, and would never have had it done if I'd read some of these posts first! My PS agrees that the Thermage did nothing for me, and is willing to try it again for free (no thanks!) or take 20 % off a real face life.
What I've learned is that for people with older, thinner, sagging skin it can worsen our problems. It tightens the collagen underneath the skin, which can make the sagging or looseness look more exaggerated. Unfortunately, doctors aren't screening their patients well, and are using this on people who aren't appropriate for it.
I had second Thermage treatment in December 2006. (First treatment
was in December 2004 and was satisfactory.) In June of 2007 I noticed
that I had areas that appeared to be recessing in my face. In particular,
an area in the upper middle left cheek that began as the size of a pencil
eraser that is now the size of a dime with a swirly "thing" off to one side.
The doctor said any results like these would have occured within one to two months after the treatment (this is what Thermage in California is
telling her!). (And by the way, it was doc's nurse who performed the
second treatment with a "new" tip using the same standards....whatever
that means.) I recently visited with a certified Dermatologist who indicated that he wasn't sure what caused these. My question to anyone
out there is have you seen similiar results within a similiar time frame.
These results just stink....this treatment was decided upon due to an
already scarred/uneven complexion. I wish I had done my homework
a little more thoroughly....however Thermage nor the docs performing
this procedure advertise this potential problem. Any advice out there???
Upset in Atl
I had one treatment about 2.5 years ago, and also have excellent results - it made me look about 5-7 years younger. Since then, NEW parts of my face (eyes, mouth) have gotten a bit more wrinkly/saggy, like ordinary getting-older problems. But all the new tightness from the Thermage is still there, in forehead, cheeks, chin and neck. If I had read all the posts on Thermage beforehand, I definitely wouldn't have gone ahead. But I didn't, and apparently got lucky, and for me, it's been just great. I'm 60 years old now, and overweight, fair complexion with skin that doesn't tend to react to anything. Today I definitely don't look my age, and before the treatment I was starting to look exactly that. So it can work for some people.
Of course, the doctor was a particularly good one. He had it done on himself, and his staff, and even his elderly mother, all with good results.
QEII wrote:I had 2 Thermage treatments done last year and got excellent results immediately--right after each session and the results stayed.
I look YEARS younger. It took away that hard skanky look one gets from saggy skin and gave me a soft, fresh, dewy look.
It not only tightened my skin, it also made my pores smaller so overall my skin just looks better. My makeup goes on smoother. (I had huge pores.)
But I had minimal sagging and no wrinkles to speak of to begin with so it didn't have to do too much to improve my skin.
I think that is the key to Thermage, only use it on someone who barely needs it.
Good for you if you had positive results. Since my original posting, I
have seen both a dermatologist group and plastic surgeon. It is their
belief that I am seeing damage (i.e. indentations...two of which are very
distinguishable rectangular shapes, other recessed areas, thinning of
the lower cheeks and who knows what else I have to look forward to!)
They suggested Sculptra and Restylane as possible solutions to my
problems....fat grafts are not an option for me. Needless to say, I
am disgusted and am seeking legal counsel.
I am not a Thermage victim (I have other problems), but have been sickened by the damage, despair it's caused others. Like most people, I had no idea - until I started reading these boards. The fact that this company continues to get away with maiming unabashadly without consequence, and that the public has absolutely no idea of the risks, dangers is incomprehensible to me - really. I myself, was recommended Thermage for my troubles (which makes no sense whatsoever). Thank goodness I didn't do it. However, the docs and literature sure make it sound appealing - great results, no risks! Yeah, right! Anyway, I can only imagine how you must feel - but, I would strongly encourage you to join forces with others who've been similarly damaged and file a class action suit. Even though it hasn't effected me personally, it just makes me so angry to continue to see posts from new victims of this terrible, terrible device. There are quite a number of you out there.
Btw - you can also find Thermage victims on acne.com (or acne.org?). Why their docs were recommending Thermage I have no idea??!!
Sorry about my swearing BUT FOR F**K SAKE WHY DID I NOT READ THIS BEFORE I HAD THERMAGE ! I had it done in FEB 2007 £4000 in London it did nothing at all so they offerd me a free one 6 month slater and now 2 months after the second all the fat in my still quite young looking face is slowly disapearing I am looking worse by the week.
So lets think back to the way this was sold to me was to aviod a face lift and keep yourself going untiul your late 40's well I am 38 now and considering a face lift just to get back to the way I looked before this thing was done to me. Sorry if I sound angry but I am not a rich man and I feel I have paid a lot of money just to look older.
Anyone reading this who is considering the treatment please save your money and your face.
I am so mad at myself for not researching before having Thermage performed on me in Sept. 2007. I bought the hype, esp. about it being safe. I am astonished to read the horrible things happening to people, and that this hasn't gotten out more in the media. I'd like to know when the bad stuff started happening to people?? So far, I haven't noticed anything dire going on, actually the fullness seems to come and go-- I work out a lot and tend to look shrunken for a day or 2 after a particularly grueling workout and then the fullness comes back... I also feel like my face looks bloaty, rather than firm and youthful... like I ate too much salt the night before and am retaining liquid. The only dent I had was on the tip of my nose, where the person must have touched it by accident--but it has almost gone away. I am really scared now about what I have to look forward to, has anyone had bad side effects after the 6 months or more? Very distressing to read, and sorry for those with such upsetting problems from this. Wish I had saved my 2,500. for towards a face lift.
Don't worry most people don't notice anything at all good or bad. The only advice I can give is if they offer you a free top up in six months JUST SAY NO THANKYOU. Its was after the second my face started to loose fat.
please feel free to pm or e.mail me if you get worried.
my mother in law and I had thermage done with NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever! Here is another forum to check out if youd like. it has my whole story on there. I am trying to get more ppl on there to post their stories. thanks
Thermage is a joke. I have not had it done. Three friends have. One has dents all over her face (procedure done by a top dermatologist); one saw no effect at all, and one "thought" she saw something after three months, and then said she had imagined it. Cost for each procedure: over $3,000. What a disgrace. My cosmetic doc had the machine and, after "a year of hearing complaints about nothing happening" got rid of it. Prior to this, she was offering "the equivalent $ in other procedures" if the patient saw no result. I am appalled by this company and its strong arm tactics (we won't go there). Complain in the wrong circles and you get threatened with a lawsuit.
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