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Thermage Disaster.

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Postby richtea » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:03 pm

[poppy/quote]Thanks Rich, how long ago did you have thermage, did you manage to fix any of the damage yet?[/quote]

I had it in Feb 2007 the only damage I had was all the fat I did have in my face just went and left me looking gaunt the only thing I did to fix it was to have a bit of perlain in my cheeks and I put on some waight I still have a bit of jowelage to sort out but I am having a macs lift in feb for that.

hopefully that will be enough
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:49 pm

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Postby poppy20 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:55 pm

richtea wrote:[poppy/quote]Thanks Rich, how long ago did you have thermage, did you manage to fix any of the damage yet?


I had it in Feb 2007 the only damage I had was all the fat I did have in my face just went and left me looking gaunt the only thing I did to fix it was to have a bit of perlain in my cheeks and I put on some waight I still have a bit of jowelage to sort out but I am having a macs lift in feb for that.

hopefully that will be enough[/quote]
Thanks Rich
It sounds like we have similar damage regarding the fat loss, my face has aged considerably, and looks gaunt and bony.
I'm only 30, I feel I might be too young for a face lift.
Did putting on weight help?
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Re: thermage disasters

Postby poppy20 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:03 pm

mecca123 wrote:hi all. i think a support group would help on many levels...we could share doctors' diagnosis info, correction techniques, outcomes, and give emotional support!

my damage has come from a different type of laser but the outcome appears to be identical. i have pock mark scars on my temples and cheeks, weathered, wrinkled, orange peel (pitted) texture across my entire face, dents, and fat loss especially in my temples and even the side of my nose. it looks like the inside of my face shrunk and the skin is forming around a damaged dermis (?).

i had five treatments this year and the last was 2 1/2 months ago. the changes in the last month have been drastic.

i have met with two plastic surgeons and one derm thus far. i will be meeting with three highly respected derms in los angeles in the next week. i am praying they give me answers.

my thoughts are with everyone going through this horrifying experience. i had beautiful skin to begin with and only did the treatments for hyperpigmentation from my pregnancies. the doctors also told me it was building collagen for the future.

i am beyond sad as i feel that my youth was stolen from me. i am 41 but looked about 30 and was often asked for my identification to prove i was 21! now i look quite old and damaged.

perhaps we should start another thread "LASER DAMAGE" or some such thing. we could also exchange emails for more personal updates.

okay, i will end this long one with two quotes from al gore's nobel speech. sure, it is completely out of context (like globally!) but somehow i was inspired in my own little personal plight. :wink:

"In the Kanji characters used in both Chinese and Japanese, "crisis" is written with two symbols, the first meaning "danger," the second "opportunity."

"In the words of the Spanish poet, Antonio Machado, "Pathwalker, there is no path. You must make the path as you walk.""


It does sound like we are experiencing similar side effects, the dents, and fat loss especially.
Did either of the plastic surgeons advise you on how to fix any of the damage.
I have been advised to wait it out for another two months, and then possibly have some filler, or fat grafts.
I understand exactly what you are going through, this is such a depressing situation.
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What kind of laser?

Postby kb123 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:27 am

Mecca123,

What kind of laser and treatment did you have?
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Postby samia70 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:12 am

Yikes, I was so upset to read this thread, as I had Thermage done back in September, 2007. I haven't really gotten the bad side effects that you all have mentioned yet, *keeping my fingers crossed*--but I have to say I feel like I have a more bloated look rather than a firmer look and I think my neck looks more saggy--I feel like I look like I ate too much salt and have retained liquid... I did have a dent on my nose for awhile, the aesthecian must have touched it by mistake, but it has gone away. When did all the bad side effects start happening for you all? Such as the fat disappearing? Did this all happen after the 6 month period? I can't believe this is touted as a safe procedure. I'm really scared now, and it cost almost 3,000!! I am freaked out! :cry:

Is there anyone on here that is pleased/happy with their Thermage results??
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hi poppy and mecca

Postby belindah » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:24 pm

Hi Poppy

i am also based in london and suffering similar damage from an IPL machine. i need advice as to what to do? which ps have you been seeing? I don't know where to start to find someone good and every day the damage gets worse. do you know some good people?

mecca, what treatment did you have? IPL?
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:16 pm

I hope any/all of you on this thread who have experienced fat loss from IPL will try to post under the poll regarding IPL and Fat Loss that I created (not necessarily Thermage). Here is the link:

http://messageboards.makemeheal.com/vie ... hp?t=68784

I'm trying to gather some information and see if anyone is interested in investigating this further with regard to IPL and fat loss, on a higher level than a message board.

Nothing may come from it, but something may. If there is a pattern developing and we can help others to avoid heartache and heartbreak, then it's worth a try.

Thanks,

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CANDELA V BEAM PERFECTA DAMAGE

Postby mecca123 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:09 pm

hi there. i posted on the ipl fat loss thread although my damage was caused by a laser by candela called v-beam perfecta. supposedly a very safe laser but not for me.

i wish i only had fat loss...as it seems that can somehow be addressed. (not to make less of the fat loss at all because this is something horrible that should just not be happening to people.) the worst part of mine is the scarring, texture changes, and wrinkling. i look horrible...along with the fat loss. i cannot stand even catching a reflection of myself.

the worst part? well, actually, there are many, but to not know how to fix it and having doctors say, "hey, you still look great for your age!" really unbelievable the things that have been said to me. i asked one famous dermatologist if he would actually write that medical paper that he mentioned during my office visit...he had a change of heart and said, "medical papers are worthless. you can use them to wipe your a!@. if i write one for your condition it won't change anything as the majority of lasering is safe." nice, huh? but he did say the best bet is to come on these boards and find others. thus, here i am.

i started a LASER DAMAGE SUPPORT GROUP on the facial plastic surgery network page if anyone else wants to share their stories and offer suggestions and emotional support for all who are suffering through this.

http://FacialPlasticSurgery.net/forum/f ... p?id=83800

also, here is a frightening site for medical professionals to swap stories about what is the best laser to buy for their practice. we are the test subjects.

http://www.medicalspamd.com/tech-qa-ipl ... ost/198497

so, i send positive thoughts to ALL of you out there who are suffering from ANY type of mishap from a medical procedure. hang in there and keep positive. time will help and information is the key!

xxxxx
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Postby Lyn27 » Wed May 28, 2008 10:17 am

I just asked a Dr about skin tightening, and he told me to look in to Thermage. Now, I'm re-thinking it. What would be the best thing for skin tightening of the neck and face?
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Postby DCNGA » Wed May 28, 2008 4:40 pm

A neck and face lift--about the only thing that lasts long-term with the most dramatic, noticeable results.

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post thermage

Postby saveface » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:03 am

:idea: Well....I did it anyway even after reading all the negatives about thermage. It was that darn episode on Oprah that stuck in my mind that showed the great wonders of Thermage! The technician took her time and seemed well informed about my worries and concerns. I did hurt but not unbearable. Day 1: my face was nice and tight especailly around the jaw line but the skin uner my eyes seemed dried out ugly. Day 2: my face started sagging again. I did go back and they said it would take full effect in six months and to come back then. Its been about 3 months now and my face does seem different maybe more narrow but nothing dramtic. I would not recomend this procedure but I did find something that really does tighten the skin up. Its called Nuface! www.nuface.net
It zaps the muscle with tiny electical impules. It kinda feels like thermage but not any where near the pain. Your face does tighten up all over!!! You can use it everyday. It works on the principal of retraining the muscles. Its worth every penny. I wish I would have found this sooner!!! I hope this helps someone! If anyone wants to start a lawsuit against thermage...Im in
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Postby Ozlonger » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:57 am

OMG!! am I glad I found this website!!
I saw a piece about Fraxels on This Morning and got an appointment to see the 'best' in the field, an alliterative lady very near Fayed's place. Everyone there agreed that Thermage was the way to go and I have my treatment booked!!!!

I had a spare moment today and did a 'Thermage forum' search....... now I don't think I will go ahead with this.

I am so sorry you guys have had all this trouble and I really hope you can find a solution for these difficulties. My heart goes out to you - good luck
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thermage

Postby tylerspinkmama » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:11 am

Hello, I saw everyone's complaints on here and thought id add mine. My mother in law and i had thermage done as well WITH NO DIFFERENCE. Here is another forum to check out if you would like, it has my story and i am trying to get other stories on there as well!

http://s10.invisionfree.com/FalseBeautyTreaments
if the link doesnt work copy and paste in url
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Thermage Help

Postby ovid » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:55 pm

Dr. Tony Youn has posted a paper citing Thermage issues on his blog, the post includes a photo of a patient he has seen, who has the Thermage issues being reported. Dr. Youn also noted he sees numbers of patients reporting the Thermage issues. I was very impressed that Dr. Youn took the time and effort to made this information available. Perhaps he would be a good source for help. Below is a link to his blog. His email address is miplasticsurgeon@yahoo.com. His phone number is 248-650-1900. Here is blog:
http://celebritycosmeticsurgery.blogspo ... tions.html

Best wishes,
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