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Thermage Disaster.

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Thermage Disaster.

Postby poppy20 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:07 pm

I recently had the new improved thermage treatment two months ago, in a London clinic.
I was told before the treatment that the new improved machine would not cause any side effects, and there was nothing to worry about.
About five weeks later I started to notice some small indentations on my forhead, I called the clinic to ask about these side effects, and was told I was imagining it and no one had ever experienced any negative side effects from the new machine.
I went back to the clinic only to be told the same thing, that there was nothing there, even though friends and work colleagues, had noticed the indentations.
I have since had two seperate opinions from two highly regarded plastic surgeons, who both agreed the indentations had been a direct side effect of thermage, the second surgeon who I saw most recently, also pointed out the fact that I now also have more indentions on my cheekbone area also.Over the past week I have noticed my whole face looking really thin and withdrawn, I look ill.
This is really depressing, and I am only two months down the line.
Is there any one else in London who has has a similar experience with Thermage?
Thanks Poppy.
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:18 pm

Do you have any "proof" they were using the new generation of Thermage (not that I personally know that it makes a difference if it's new or old technology)? I guess, if I were you, I would want to see the proof. With the new machine, I've read you are to be awake so you can give cues as to if it is causing discomfort as it should not be on a high enough setting to cause pain.

Secondly, and only a personal opinion, I think this company should be put out of business (regardless of what generation machine it is) as I don't think they are taking responsibility for the first generation problems and now "here we go again' with the supposed, safe second generation.

Shame on any doctor, technician or "medi-spa" that uses this machine-they have no real concern for their patients---in my opinion.

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Postby poppy20 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:52 pm

I didn't even think to ask for proof that it was the new generation machine.I don't know the difference between the the two, to be honest I trusted the doctor, more fool me.
I was awake for the treatment, and it was quite uncomfortable especially around the jaw area, when I complained about the heat, I was told that the stronger the heat, the better the effect.
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Postby QEII » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:53 pm

I've had Thermage (2 treatments, extremely painful) and got excellent results but since then I have heard stories of bad results.

Knowing what I know now, I would not do Thermage. My plastic surgeon, who was voted "best in the city" stopped offering it.

Thermage can cause fat loss, which results in dents and hollow areas in the face.

I'm sorry to hear that it sounds as if you are experiencing some of these problems!

The only treatment would be using fillers, like Juvederm or your own fat injected back into the areas that have been affected.

PS: It doesn't matter whether they used the latest machine
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Postby pivot » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:25 pm

I am really sorry to hear about your experience. I was also damged by thermage 2 years ago. There is no turning back, just think about going forward. Several people who were damaged have had success with fat graphing, you may want to look into it.
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Postby richtea » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:43 pm

Sorry about my swearing BUT FOR F**K SAKE WHY DID I NOT READ THIS BEFORE I HAD THERMAGE ! I had it done in FEB 2007 £4000 in London it did nothing at all so they offerd me a free one 6 month slater and now 2 months after the second all the fat in my still quite young looking face is slowly disapearing I am looking worse by the week.

So lets think back to the way this was sold to me was to aviod a face lift and keep yourself going untiul your late 40's well I am 38 now and considering a face lift just to get back to the way I looked before this thing was done to me. Sorry if I sound angry but I am not a rich man and I feel I have paid a lot of money just to look older.

Anyone reading this who is considering the treatment please save your money and your face.
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Postby poppy20 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:51 pm

I have now had my third consultation with the cosmetic surgeon, who will eventually be able to repair some of the fat loss, and other damage to my face.
But the surgeon has told me I will have to wait another two to three months before I can start to have any filler, because he thinks there is a chance some of the fat might regenerate.
I'm not very hopeful having read so many other womens posts on this forum, and looking at my face now, even compared to two weeks ago. it is looking even more hollow, and the dents in my cheeks are even larger.
I am only thirty years old, and this is soul destroying.
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:03 pm

Oh, Poppy, I'm so sorry for your heartache and heartbreak. Your problems make all the silly things I don't like about my facelift seem all the more trivial.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that your problems can be resolved and everything improves for you.

Take care.

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thermage disasters

Postby mecca123 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:02 pm

i have been searching for days trying to find a recent post about thermage damage. are there any support groups still in existence? are there lawsuits that have been won? what have thermage victims found to be the best way to "fix" the fat loss?

if no support group exists, would anyone be interested in forming one?
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Re: thermage disasters

Postby poppy20 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:44 pm

mecca123 wrote:i have been searching for days trying to find a recent post about thermage damage. are there any support groups still in existence? are there lawsuits that have been won? what have thermage victims found to be the best way to "fix" the fat loss?

if no support group exists, would anyone be interested in forming one?


I would be interested in forming one, but I'm based in the UK.
This is truly a nightmare experience, which keeps getting worse, I am seeing another specialist dermatologist next week, for a fourth opinion on the damage to my face.
So far I have been told to wait before I start to have any corrections, because the dents in my skin might regenerate.
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Postby richtea » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:02 am

Thats ok poppy l am in the uk too and would be interested. :)
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Postby poppy20 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:14 am

richtea wrote:Thats ok poppy l am in the uk too and would be interested. :)


Thanks Rich, how long ago did you have thermage, did you manage to fix any of the damage yet?
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:54 am

I did a VERY QUICK search re:Thermage and lawsuits. The site below might be good or may be a rip-off, I don't know. But, here is a link to check out, anyway:

http://www.legalchatonline.com/showthread.php?t=110

Luckily, I did not have thermage but I feel so bad for those who've had bad outcomes from having had it.

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http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/
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thermage disasters

Postby mecca123 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:28 pm

hi all. i think a support group would help on many levels...we could share doctors' diagnosis info, correction techniques, outcomes, and give emotional support!

my damage has come from a different type of laser but the outcome appears to be identical. i have pock mark scars on my temples and cheeks, weathered, wrinkled, orange peel (pitted) texture across my entire face, dents, and fat loss especially in my temples and even the side of my nose. it looks like the inside of my face shrunk and the skin is forming around a damaged dermis (?).

i had five treatments this year and the last was 2 1/2 months ago. the changes in the last month have been drastic.

i have met with two plastic surgeons and one derm thus far. i will be meeting with three highly respected derms in los angeles in the next week. i am praying they give me answers.

my thoughts are with everyone going through this horrifying experience. i had beautiful skin to begin with and only did the treatments for hyperpigmentation from my pregnancies. the doctors also told me it was building collagen for the future.

i am beyond sad as i feel that my youth was stolen from me. i am 41 but looked about 30 and was often asked for my identification to prove i was 21! now i look quite old and damaged.

perhaps we should start another thread "LASER DAMAGE" or some such thing. we could also exchange emails for more personal updates.

okay, i will end this long one with two quotes from al gore's nobel speech. sure, it is completely out of context (like globally!) but somehow i was inspired in my own little personal plight. :wink:

"In the Kanji characters used in both Chinese and Japanese, "crisis" is written with two symbols, the first meaning "danger," the second "opportunity."

"In the words of the Spanish poet, Antonio Machado, "Pathwalker, there is no path. You must make the path as you walk.""
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thermage disasters

Postby mecca123 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:54 pm

oh. i see that we can already email each other with the icon at the bottom. this is my first time posting on a board so it is all new to me.

and yes...catwoman avatar....i identified with wanting to cover up the face. i have barely left the the house since all of this has happened. and i have purchase several hats.

and i meant to say...we could name a new thread "LASER DAMAGE SUPPORT GROUP" if that is allowed.
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