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What home red-or-amber LED devices are worth the cost?

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What home red-or-amber LED devices are worth the cost?

Postby cinnamonb » Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:20 pm

Tanda is one, and there is a way less costly one available at Target now, but that only runs on batteries. Has anyone sussed out which are actually useful, in terms of wattage etc.? Have heard for collagen stimulation pros tend to use more amber now, and always pulsating or random-pattern (actually better) vs. stationary.
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Postby macy1 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:02 pm

I don't have the answer to your question, but I'm curious too if they actually work. And if so, how do they work to stimulate collagen. They would have to penetrate deeply into skin to do that so wondering if the at home devices are powerful enough to do that.
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Postby dari » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:38 am

I started using the Tanda Regenerate (sp) about 10 days ago. My skin looks better. Healthier. Smaller pores. The creases above my nose and between my eyes have relaxed. I am 48 years old and I have had the non oblative (sp) Fraxyl which worked ok but not great. Didnt last too long. Maybe the Tanda is jumpstarting the previous Fraxyl Treatment session which ended in Jan. 2007.

I thought perhaps I was imaging the improvement, but then my husband noticed!!! He's now using the Tanda on his jawline hoping for results.
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Postby 4evryoung » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:20 pm

Does this have the light emitting diodes? Are the lights red? Is it sometimes called a "Hydrofacial." I saw it advertised today on TV it was $150.00 It is non evasive and seems to help the skin tone, pores etc.
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Postby determined » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:21 pm

To learn a lot about LED devices visit the essential day spa forum and go to "skin care tools & do it yourself skin care" Lots of information there.
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Postby XKBO » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:16 am

Do research on Sota Lightworks.
They manufacture quality products.

I did buy 2 small lazer units and they do lighten those age spots. The problem with them is that you have to hold it on the spot for about 5 minutes. I'm old, so cannot say it has done anything for the face. (It would have such a long way to go :lol: )
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Re: What home red-or-amber LED devices are worth the cost?

Postby foxeskier » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:05 pm

cinnamonb wrote:Tanda is one, and there is a way less costly one available at Target now, but that only runs on batteries. Has anyone sussed out which are actually useful, in terms of wattage etc.? Have heard for collagen stimulation pros tend to use more amber now, and always pulsating or random-pattern (actually better) vs. stationary.


cinnamonb - I've actually heard that the pulsing is just a gimic. I wouldn't bother w/ a battery operated one - probably not strong enuf.

I have some info that can help a bit - copied from an old post on EDS


What to Look for in LED Devices

Power Output
This is one of the most important factors.
Ask for output per square centimeter per second ( number of joules per cm2 per second).
Many companies give power output per entire device instead of unit of measure. Also they give power output per recommended treatment duration, not per unit of time. To compare apples to apples we need to speak in the same terms.
Note: The device should aim to deliver 4 - 9 joules per cm2 per treatment time. (Treatment time might vary, e.g. 30 seconds, 60 sec, 3 minute, etc. )
*Watch for red flags such as not realistic LED power output. Some companies provide unrealistic numbers that are more suitable for lasers, not LEDs.

730nm Range
Most LEDs devices operate in 600nm and 800nm. NASA studies included 730nm rage. Look for devices that include 730nm LEDs.

Specifications Availability
Look for the manufacturers that readily post the devices technical specifications on their web sites. Those that do not do it might have reasons not to share the specs.

Number of LEDs
Number of LEDs is not as important as the power output, since the LEDs themselves vary from one another. Do not pay that much attention to the number of LEDs.

Treatment Time
Longer treatment time per area indicates a less powerful device. Look for a short treatment time duration per treatment area.

Distance from the Skin
The closer device to the skin, the better.

Visual Luminosity
A simple way to determine if the device performance is really way off is to look at it. The LEDs when turned on should be luminous, if you can look at the LEDs without much disturbance to the eyes, chances are the device is not a top performer.

Red/Infrared
Red/Infrared LEDs have deeper tissue penetration, and good for collagen/elastin production, and tissue healing. Do not expect red/infrared devices to do much to skin pigmentation.

Amber
Amber LEDs have shallow skin penetration, and good for skin pigmentation treatments, such as sun damage. Do not expect amber devices to do much for collagen/elastin production, and tissue healing.

Mixed Red/Infrared/Amber Devices
Professional oriented devices usually are limited to one type of the LEDs, either red/infrared or amber. Consumer oriented devices tend to have mixed lights. The type of a device is really a preference. Those who are need more performance from a device might be better off with separate LEDs, while those looking for more convinience, and not wanting to joggle between two different types of the devices might be satisfied with mixed LEDs devices.

Skin Preparation
Although some advise on applying lotions prior to LED treatments, professionals normally do not do it. Usually in spas treatments are done on clean skin to get the most benefits from the LEDs. Apply LEDs to clean skin.

FDA Approval
FDA approval does not guarantee LED devices effectiveness. Do not sweat over FDA approval


With all that in mind - there are several models that have been hugely popular on EDS: Baby Quasar, Prolight Plantinum (& their Pro Red and Pro Amber models), and the Anti-Aging Light Stim (AALS).
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Postby Becki32155 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:22 pm

Don't waste money on the Bruer softlaser. I got one and used it religiously for several months (twice daily often) before realizing what I had was a very expensive red-light pointer.
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Re: What home red-or-amber LED devices are worth the cost?

Postby Girlwhokeepsitreal » Sun May 03, 2015 2:42 pm

I was just looking at this today. I believe the best way to know if you can realistically do something at home is to be able to duplicate the specs of the exact machine of the exact procedure you are trying to do.

For example:

zerona is 635-680 lllt, 3B, 17.5 mW. These are measurements for types of lasers and the power of the laser. Anything too weak or too powerful might cause bad effects.
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