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I'm new - couple of questions

I'm new - couple of questions

Postby beca123 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:28 am

Hi,

I'm a 21 girl in South London, just booked my otoplasty for the 6th of June. Have been researching on the internet, as you do, and have started getting bit freaked out by all the horror stories. I suppose that maybe most people who go through it successfully don't bother to post on these forums, but I am a bit of a worrier so it would be nice to know that the statistics they give you about the unlikeliness of complications are actually true.

I think my procedure should be pretty much just a basic one - no reduction or anything like that, just the usual pinning back by removing a bit of cartilage, under local anaesthetic but with sedation. A couple of quite practical questions that I forgot to ask in my consultation (you never remember when you're there do you) are: do I need to wait a certain amount of time before flying? How about before dyeing my hair? If anyone knows the answers that would be really helpful, and a bit of reassurance would probably be nice too :-)

Thanks xx
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Postby mrp123 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:53 am

Hi Beca, is your surgeon planning to remove cartilage? Not certain about the flying issue, but as soon as you get the thumbs up to resume normal activity I can’t think of a problem.

Maybe dye your hair a day or two before the procedure as you may not be able to wash your hair until the dressing are off and that could depend on what your surgeon says. I had mine on for 12 days, Yuk!
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Postby heal_me » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:59 am

Hi Beca123

If you're in London I would get it done by Dr David Gault. He's the best ear surgeon in the U.K. Or you could fly to Paris and get it done by Dr Francoise Firmin, she's the best ear surgeon in Europe.

After having negative outcomes with an inexperienced surgeon I can only recommend the best surgeons. This is the only way you will guarantee a better/safer/more natural result. Some of us in this forum have had to go back for several revisions and get full on ear reconstruction surgery - not a pleasant experience!

I just had an ear reconstruction and flew back to my home city 2 weeks after the operation. I'm sure a week after would be fine too... but don't take my word for it, I'm not a doctor!

Make sure you tell your doctor not to over pin the ears. A lot of bad outcomes are because the ears have been over-corrected.

All the best with it and let us know how you go!
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Postby beca123 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:07 am

Hi,

I'm getting it done at one of a chain of private hospitals - the surgeon's been qualified for 30 years, is well-respected, I'm pretty confident he's fine. I've read a few dodgy things about David Gault, I think that however good a surgeon is meant to be things can always go wrong, and I'm not prepared to start trekking miles for a really expensive one.

I'm pretty sure he said he was going to take a bit of cartilage out, because he said I have a bit too much in the kind of bowl-shaped bit at the back, which is the usual reason for ears to stick out. I had another consultation at a place on Harley Street (which I couldn't afford), and they said exactly the same. Is that not normal?

Thanks for your replies by the way, is nice to know that other people are/have been in the same position.
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Postby mrp123 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:32 am

heal_me wrote:If you're in London I would get it done by Dr David Gault. He's the best ear surgeon in the U.K.


Disagree...

heal_me wrote:Or you could fly to Paris and get it done by Dr Francoise Firmin, she's the best ear surgeon in Europe.


Also disagree...

The secret is to do your research, check the surgeon’s credentials and previous work.

“Get it done once, Get it done right”

How much are you paying?

Here are a few links to check on the person with a scalpel who you are paying to cut your ears!

http://www.baaps.org.uk/

http://www.bapras.org.uk/

http://www.gmc-uk.org/information_for_y ... /index.asp
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Postby beca123 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:39 pm

Cheers for those links, I had a look and he's a member of all of those, which is reassuring :-)

I'm going to be paying about £2580, I imagined beforehand that I'd be able to find places that were cheaper, but actually most I've looked into seem to be more. That includes post-op stuff etc, as usual.
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Postby heal_me » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:17 pm

mrp123 wrote:
heal_me wrote:If you're in London I would get it done by Dr David Gault. He's the best ear surgeon in the U.K.


Disagree...



Why? because some mum on here complained that her son's ears didn't look absolutely 100% flawless? not every ear can be worked in to a piece of art, in most cases they can be improved. The guy has credentials, valuable experience and a very informative website. I've seen a lot of photos of his work and hes a good surgeon. I think someone on here even posted some good results in a different thread. To my knowledge, he's got more experience in ear reconstruction than anyone else in the U.K. If you can find someone with more extensive experience(in ear reconstruction, not just basic ear pinning), then please reference them on here, I'm sure plenty of us would be interested.

mrp123 wrote:
heal_me wrote:Or you could fly to Paris and get it done by Dr Francoise Firmin, she's the best ear surgeon in Europe.


Also disagree...


Do you even know who Dr Francoise Firmin is? do you know shes performed over 700 total ear reconstructions for microtia? She's regarded as a world leading ear surgeon by many surgeons all over the world.

mrp123 wrote:The secret is to do your research, check the surgeon’s credentials and previous work.


!!!!

They were both trained by Dr Burt Brent. I know Dr Francoise Firmin worked with Dr burt brent in 1985, so thats well over 20 years ago. I don't know the exact date when Dr Gault worked with Dr Burt Brent, but he's also worked along side Francoise Firmin in Paris and Dr Satoru Nagata in Japan.

If you've done enough research you will know that Dr Burt Brent is the godfather of ear surgery. He's done thousands of complete ear reconstructions using patients rib cartilage. He pioneered this technique around 30 years ago. This is only 1 technique amongst many that he performs. You only have to ask a few people on here to know he's the most experienced and renowned ear surgeon in the world. Here, visit his website, see his work: http://www.microtia.us.com/

I communicated with Dr Burt Brent via email and he recommended Dr Francoise Firmin as his number 1 "disciple". He suggested that I might want to talk to her as it would be shorter flight to Paris than to San Francisco. She's performed ear surgery all over the world at many different hospitals, providing other surgeons with an insight to her methods and techniques. I know for a fact she trained at least 3 of Australia's leading ear surgeons. She's also has had a plenty of surgeons travel from various parts of the world to Paris so they could be trained by her.

Read this article and see the mind blowing results Dr David Gault achieved on this young model, he completely reconstructed her ear from scratch. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4002415&page=1

It's amazing work! Surely you can't question his ability after seeing these photos?

These surgeons are capable of performing very complex ear operations. There's only a select few in the world who can do this. Generic ear pinning is child's play for these specialists.
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Postby heal_me » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:42 am

Here's some additional information on Dr Francoise Firmin:

http://www.euraps.org/ABOUTpresident.htm

    "she went to visit Burt BRENT (1985)"

    "she was visiting professor in:
      * Singapore in 1998
      * Philadelphia in 2002 where she gave the “IVY lecture”
      * New York in 2002 where she gave the “Kazanjian lecture”
      * Miami in 2006 where she gave the “Millard lecture”
    She performed live surgery during several meetings (France, Germany, Israel, Italy and Spain).
    And being invited by local Plastic Surgeons, she operated many patients in their own country (Australia, Bahrain, Bolivia, Italy, Finlay, Norway, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland).

    She is still very active in her private practice at the Clinique BIZET in Paris where she welcomes and teaches many visitors.

    She now performs an average of 150 cases of ear reconstructions per year.

    She has been an active member of the EURAPS from its beginning and a member of the Council in 1993.

    She won the Prize of the Best Clinical Paper at the EURAPS 1995.

    She has made numerous presentations on breast reconstruction and ear reconstruction as well as publications on the same subjects."
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Postby mrp123 » Thu May 01, 2008 7:25 pm

I still disagree...!

:D
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Postby jaybin9 » Thu May 01, 2008 7:41 pm

how does Dr bermant compare to these famous guys?

Was he trained by Dr burt brent?
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Postby heal_me » Fri May 02, 2008 6:49 am

jaybin9 wrote:how does Dr bermant compare to these famous guys?

Was he trained by Dr burt brent?


As far as I know Dr Bermant wasn't trained by Dr Burt Brent. I don't see any references for techniques tackling microtia on his website.

He appears to be a very good surgeon though. I also think he covers a broader area of plastic surgery, not just specializing in the ears. Some of his before and after shots are very impressive. He uses a variety of techniques covering a variety of deformaties. His website is excellent. I'm still yet to hear back from anyone on here who's actually gone through with surgery by Dr Bermant though...
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Postby jaybin9 » Fri May 02, 2008 2:17 pm

I scheduled a consultation with him, and if all goes well will go through with a surgery in july with him :D
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Postby doriangray » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:39 am

so how'd it go?
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Francoise Firmin trained Australian Surgeons

Postby infinite_111 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:56 am

Hi heal_me,

You mentioned Francoise Firmin trained at least 3 of Australia's leading ear surgeons. I'm looking to undergo an Otoplasty in Australia. Would you know who these surgeons are? Any help would be really appreciated!

Thanks!
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Re:Ear Reduction Surgery

Postby jimjam009 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:06 pm

Although this is an old thread, I feel it may help someone if I add some comments about my experience undergoing surgery with Mr David Gault Ear Reconstruction Surgeon in the UK.

I had ear reduction surgery with Mr Gault earlier this year and wanted to convey my sincere appreciation for the quality of care and excellent outcome.

I decided I wanted to see the best possible surgeon even if it meant travelling abroad. I was very glad, however, to discover that one of the best specialist ear reconstruction surgeons in the world, works here in the UK.

I'd originally read about Mr Gault's professional profile via much research on the Internet and during that process I remember stumbling across a couple of negative comments, which surprised me because they didn't seem at all consistent with the many credible and positive sources of information available.

I eventually concluded that Mr Gault's world class credentials and extensive experience spoke for themselves and therefore decided to go ahead with the procedure.

I'm glad I did as I'm now delighted with the outcome!

I feel very fortunate to have had the benefit of Mr Gault's renowned expertise and the knowledge that I've been treated by such a leading expert in his field. I would definitively recommend him if you're considering ear surgery.
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