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Postby justoroxy04 » Wed May 09, 2007 9:49 pm

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Postby justoroxy04 » Wed May 09, 2007 9:55 pm

least but not last.. arent u gonna losse ur money if u chosse another surgeon?
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Postby AmandaD7000 » Fri May 18, 2007 11:55 am

justoroxy04 wrote:least but not last.. arent u gonna losse ur money if u chosse another surgeon?


Yes, I wasn't planning on switching at this point, but still needed to hear from the mouth's of prior patients what they thought. I received positive feedback from everyone I contacted, and now I have that extra level of reassurance. The vibe wasn't as good at the second consult as the first, but I've found that doctors who are the best at ass-kissing are often lacking in surgery skills. Dayan knows his stuff, and he probably gets tired of playing psychologist to all of the people like me who get nervous right before their surgeries.

I'm just going to be happy to end this game of getting rhino's over and over...my first rhino turned out o.k., but I insisted on a revision, which made it much worse. To all those considering revisions...really consider how bad you want it, because even the best doctors have difficulties with revisions. Luckily, I don't have so much cartilage missing that Dayan has to rebuild my nose, but he is going to have to use ear or possibly rib. It is easy to have too much cartilage removed if you go to the wrong doctor.
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Postby justoroxy04 » Mon May 21, 2007 9:31 pm

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Postby AmandaD7000 » Thu May 24, 2007 3:38 pm

Hi again

I'm not Asian, but I did have tip work done. In fact, that was the main reason for my rhinoplasty.

I have always had a narrow nose, and my last surgery, with a surgeon I would not recommend to anyone (DR. VOGT IN WAYZATA, MN) was ridiculously unsuccessful. All I needed was some help with a tip graft that slipped out of place and a small bump on my bridge that formed since a previous surgery, and he didn't fix either of the problems. He made the bump worse, didn't even attempt to fix my tip, AND he made my nose assymetrical and took away some of my projection. I am tempted to start up a web site or something to warn people about this guy, because he was the president of the Minnesota ASPS and claims he does a lot of rhinoplasties. My breathing became worse, and I had to walk around with an asymmetrical nose for the past two years because of this untalented hack.

I just had my surgery with Dr. Dayan two days ago, and I am extremely pleased so far. When I saw him yesterday so he could check out my stitches and remove my packing, I had almost no swelling anywhere except for my nose under the splint , and he told me he was surprised how little swelling I had 1 day post-op. I seriously looked completely normal aside from the splint on my nose. I took SinEcch and VitaMedica Bromelain with Quercetin, along with the standard multivitamin and vitamin C supplement that he tells you to take. Of course, swelling peaks at 72 hours, and I now have some swelling and darkness under my eyes, but I look right now like I did three weeks post-op with my last surgery. And this surgery was much more involved; it was 3.5 hours at least, and he used cartilage grafts from both of my ears.

Dr. Dayan is so talented that I'm sure the minimal bruising and swelling is due to his skill, but I still recommend the SinEcch and bromelain. E-mail me if you want any more info.
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Postby justoroxy04 » Thu May 24, 2007 4:02 pm

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Postby pinkieswear » Thu May 24, 2007 4:15 pm

Amanda:

That is crazy about your experience with Dt. Vogt in MN. He did my surgery and I am thrilled with the results! I actually really liked him to. I thought he was super nice and hes made me feel so confident and comfortable. Maybe hes gotten better in the last 2 years??

Im so sorry for your expierence. I guess it just goes to show no matter how talented some PS's are Rhinopastly turns out differently for everyone. And that is why they cannot and should not gaurentee you a perfect nose.

Good luck to you with your recovery!

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Postby justoroxy04 » Thu May 24, 2007 4:17 pm

pinkie.. - what a nice nose.. u only had a bump removed.. thats an easy task.. sorry but the tip job is the most complicated.. you are saying you are happy.. and worship that doctor.. he is not talented at all.. nooo way

that bump is easy to remove...
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Postby pinkieswear » Thu May 24, 2007 4:33 pm

Roxy,

Actually I got a ton of tip work done. My nose was long and pointed downward. In fact if you look at my before pics you can see that you cant even see any part of my nostrils really.. and in the after you can totally see them. He raised the tip a lot helping with the profile as well.

Everyone is entitled there own opinion. I do not worship my Dr. Im just saying that I am very pleased with my result and thought he did a great job. PS's are not always going to do perfect work. Its unfourtunate but they are only human.

Best of luck to you during your recovery! :)
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Postby justoroxy04 » Thu May 24, 2007 4:41 pm

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Postby pinkieswear » Thu May 24, 2007 4:53 pm

Yeah a lot better thank god! haha

I think your nose looks fantastic! I mean the before and after is a huge difference! And its even still swollen. I cant wait til 6 months from now when we can get more of an idea of what we are going to permanently look like!

congrats on your new nose! :)
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Postby AmandaD7000 » Thu May 24, 2007 7:35 pm

justoroxy04 wrote:
AmandaD7000 wrote:Hi again

I'm not Asian, but I did have tip work done. In fact, that was the main reason for my rhinoplasty.

I have always had a narrow nose, and my last surgery, with a surgeon I would not recommend to anyone (DR. VOGT IN WAYZATA, MN) was ridiculously unsuccessful. All I needed was some help with a tip graft that slipped out of place and a small bump on my bridge that formed since a previous surgery, and he didn't fix either of the problems. He made the bump worse, didn't even attempt to fix my tip, AND he made my nose assymetrical and took away some of my projection. I am tempted to start up a web site or something to warn people about this guy, because he was the president of the Minnesota ASPS and claims he does a lot of rhinoplasties. My breathing became worse, and I had to walk around with an asymmetrical nose for the past two years because of this untalented hack.


Hmmm SOrry to hear this, but didint he offer you a free revision at least? From what you are describing.. sound like the doctor didint even pay attention to what you needed done.. that was very unprofessional of him. At least if he tried.. to please you it was ok.. but like u've said.. he did everything the way he wanted it..

You should do something about it...




I just had my surgery with Dr. Dayan two days ago, and I am extremely pleased so far. When I saw him yesterday so he could check out my stitches and remove my packing, I had almost no swelling anywhere except for my nose under the splint , and he told me he was surprised how little swelling I had 1 day post-op. I seriously looked completely normal aside from the splint on my nose. I took SinEcch and VitaMedica Bromelain with Quercetin, along with the standard multivitamin and vitamin C supplement that he tells you to take. Of course, swelling peaks at 72 hours, and I now have some swelling and darkness under my eyes, but I look right now like I did three weeks post-op with my last surgery. And this surgery was much more involved; it was 3.5 hours at least, and he used cartilage grafts from both of my ears.


Im glad everything went well with you! COngratz..
Yes Dr Dayan told me that none of his patients get bruises and they get less sweeling.. he claims that he does everything possible to make their clients satisfied. Because he knows once they get too many bruises.. the healing process takes longer ...

He took your cast off the next day? wow mine was a week after.
Katie took the stiches and cast off right?How was it? Did the cast hurt a lot when she took it off?
When is your next visit..





Dr. Dayan is so talented that I'm sure the minimal bruising and swelling is due to his skill, but I still recommend the SinEcch and bromelain. E-mail me if you want any more info.



DId he reccomend you all this? He didint give me much info :evil:



Yes, Dr. Vogt offered to do another revision on me, but the thing is, he is a proponent of doing closed rhinos, and he most certainly should have done mine using the open method, because with the closed method you don't have access to the tip and you can't see the true structure of that area, but he insisted on doing mine closed. He teaches the closed method at U of M, and the truth is he is not comfortable using the open method. If I would have had Vogt revise my nose I would have saved myself $10,000 (what I paid for my last surgery), but Vogt butchered my nose so badly, and you only get one nose in life. I couldn't afford for him to create any more problems than he already had.

He even said he would consider refunding part of the $6,500 I paid him when I asked him for help because I felt it was time to see someone who specializes in revision rhinoplasties, but he later rescinded his words and stated that he felt the before and after pictures showed a lot of improvement. I will get a hold of those pictures and post them for all to see so you can make your own judgments. It was not until I asked for Vogt's op reports that it was revealed to me that Dr. Vogt hadn't even ventured near the tip of my nose, and he can't claim that he didn't know I wanted my tip fixed, because the computer imaging he provided me before the surgery showed a corrected tip.

Pinkieswear, your nose looks great. With my experience, the bump on the bridge of my nose didn't make itself apparent again until the swelling came down, but I doubt you'll have the same problem. I agree with you that Dr. Vogt is very pleasant. As he probably did with you, he showered me with compliments, like "such beautiful eyes" and "I just saw my patient Ms. North Dakota, and you could be Ms Wisconsin". He piled it on pretty heavy. But, one time when one of his nurses was taking post-op photos of me, he barged in the room barking at her for something and his tone of voice went back to nice mode instantly when he saw me in the room. But regardless, your results are beautiful and I'm sure they will continue to look great once the swelling comes down.
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Postby pinkieswear » Fri May 25, 2007 7:51 am

Amanda,

Well it sounds like you did what was right for you. I mean yes 10,000 is a ton of money.. but youre right you only get one nose. So I think it was good that you went to a Dr. that you felt more comfortable with. I mean that is so important... feeling confident. I wish you the best of luck with your recovery! I hope that your new nose is everything you want it to be! :)

Take care and happy healing! :)
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Postby AmandaD7000 » Fri May 25, 2007 3:32 pm

Thanks, you too pinkieswear! :D
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Postby AmandaD7000 » Fri May 25, 2007 5:26 pm

justoroxy04 wrote:
AmandaD7000 wrote:Hi again

I'm not Asian, but I did have tip work done. In fact, that was the main reason for my rhinoplasty.

I have always had a narrow nose, and my last surgery, with a surgeon I would not recommend to anyone (DR. VOGT IN WAYZATA, MN) was ridiculously unsuccessful. All I needed was some help with a tip graft that slipped out of place and a small bump on my bridge that formed since a previous surgery, and he didn't fix either of the problems. He made the bump worse, didn't even attempt to fix my tip, AND he made my nose assymetrical and took away some of my projection. I am tempted to start up a web site or something to warn people about this guy, because he was the president of the Minnesota ASPS and claims he does a lot of rhinoplasties. My breathing became worse, and I had to walk around with an asymmetrical nose for the past two years because of this untalented hack.


Hmmm SOrry to hear this, but didint he offer you a free revision at least? From what you are describing.. sound like the doctor didint even pay attention to what you needed done.. that was very unprofessional of him. At least if he tried.. to please you it was ok.. but like u've said.. he did everything the way he wanted it..

You should do something about it...




I just had my surgery with Dr. Dayan two days ago, and I am extremely pleased so far. When I saw him yesterday so he could check out my stitches and remove my packing, I had almost no swelling anywhere except for my nose under the splint , and he told me he was surprised how little swelling I had 1 day post-op. I seriously looked completely normal aside from the splint on my nose. I took SinEcch and VitaMedica Bromelain with Quercetin, along with the standard multivitamin and vitamin C supplement that he tells you to take. Of course, swelling peaks at 72 hours, and I now have some swelling and darkness under my eyes, but I look right now like I did three weeks post-op with my last surgery. And this surgery was much more involved; it was 3.5 hours at least, and he used cartilage grafts from both of my ears.


Im glad everything went well with you! COngratz..
Yes Dr Dayan told me that none of his patients get bruises and they get less sweeling.. he claims that he does everything possible to make their clients satisfied. Because he knows once they get too many bruises.. the healing process takes longer ...

He took your cast off the next day? wow mine was a week after.
Katie took the stiches and cast off right?How was it? Did the cast hurt a lot when she took it off?
When is your next visit..





Dr. Dayan is so talented that I'm sure the minimal bruising and swelling is due to his skill, but I still recommend the SinEcch and bromelain. E-mail me if you want any more info.



DId he reccomend you all this? He didint give me much info :evil:


Hey Roxy

To answer your questions:

Dr. Dayan removed the packing the next day, not the splint. And he was surprised that I had very little post-op swelling the next day because I had an extensive operation that involved cutting up my ears in four different spots and grafting cartilage in my nose. Don't feel like he didn't let you in on the anti-swelling info; I researched it myself. The packet Katie gave us said to take the multivitamin and the extra vitamin C, but I had to o.k. it with Dr. Dayan to take the SinEcch and the Bromelain. The bromelain is what is in the pineapple juice you've been drinking. Has that helped with your swelling? I hope your swelling is going down as faster now as the days go by. Either way, your pics look very good, especially for so early! Like I said before, often when people like their result right away, they become disappointed when the swelling goes down to reveal imperfections in the bridge and tip that weren't noticable originally. I bet your final result will be great.
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