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Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby gigi70 » Mon May 15, 2017 10:16 am

It's been around 4 years since Dr Menick revised my nose. It was upturned/short from a primary but had definition on the tip. When Dr Menick took my cast off I cried, and it's got no better since. It was overly lengthened and made very very wide (he put in spreader grafts which I did not want). The tip is very masculine and wide. It's incredibly large for my face, and I hate my photos taken still.

When I take pics, I have to photoshop my nose to define it.

I had a consult with Pastorek, who agreed it was bulbous and not feminine. He said because of the grafting he wouldn't shorten it and just narrow the tip. But I have an ugly tip at the bottom, the columella is very rounded and long now. I liked Pastorek and am considering him, does anyone else know who is great for 2nd revision in NYC? I am not going to be able to do this out of town I do not think.

Any experience with Steven Pearlman?
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby chelseablue » Mon May 15, 2017 11:19 am

Hi Gigi...I know you don't want to go out of NYC...but if you could, by any chance, just get down to Maryland, I would go see Dr. Thomas Le. He really makes sure he and the patient are on the same page and he is extremely precise. His operations are generally lenghthy in time because he is a perfectionist. I had my primary rhinoplasty revised, for breathing problems, at a local plastic surgeons office, and I have regretted ir ever since. If I would have traveled an extra hour to Dr. Les' office I think I would have been a lot happier with my revision. Just a thought and best of luck with your journey.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby Tuffluck » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:00 pm

Hi Gigi,

If the problem is it's too large for your face, would Calvert be an option? I know he's done work revising a lot of overgrafted T noses.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby Rhinosucks » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:06 pm

you should see dr le. not far from new york in Ellicott City Maryland. can catch train to BWI and then uber it if you dont want to drive.

I just consulted with him. was considering Menick but after your review and beauty and the beast i think best I dont.

i think Le can help. I saw pics of Dr T and Mencik revisions when I was there and they were incredible results. Very natural.

I need length back and a bridge restored. I need a recreated defined tip, i think dr le is my best bet. His surgery time still scares me, but revision overall terrifies me. I cant get it wrong. I never wanted rhino and to have an over operated dissected nose for rhino I never wanted, expected or planned is maddening. Especially knowing he did so much work that I need major rib nose reconstruction.

Did menick use rib grafts? how long were you swollen?
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby gigi70 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:29 am

Hi, Sorry for late reply. No Menick used my septum for grafting. My nose is incredibly wide, masculine and has a blob like appearance from the front. The columella is hanging now (it never did with natural nose or primary nose) and overall it's very unattractive. I did meet with Le before Menick and I felt his noses were too wide and not pretty -- then I ended up with a horrible wide nose from Menick! I also didn't like the idea of a 9 hour surgery.
The maddening thing is, I never had a wide nose in the past. It was actually fairly narrow. I feel like I am wearing Grouch Marx glasses with a fake nose.

Is Beauty & the Beast still on here?
I don't think I can do an out of state operation. I'm a single mother with two children and it would be too hard for me to go away to do this and I will have nobody to watch the kids that long. I really need to find a surgeon in NY but is there really nobody?
pastorek seemed to think he could slim down the tip - but wouldn't fix the columella issue because he wouldn't touch the grafted areas he said at first consult. I would get maybe a more defined nose from him but would have to live with the weird rounded bottom of nose - unless that just might look better with a more defined tip. I really don't know.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby gigi70 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:21 pm

Hi,

Coming on to 5 years post op from Menick. Still hate my nose - have to photoshop it in every picture. It's very big, much bigger than my original nose before my primary. Very long, wide (the spreader grafts were a concern of mine and I did not want them but he insisted) and there is no definition in the tip. The tip is very rounded and very unattractive.

Today my nose swelled up like crazy, I still get insane swelling just randomly. Is this normal 5 years post op? It literally looks potato like, almost like after the op. I don't understand the huge swelling so far out.

I still want to fix this but I did not like Le, too long a surgery time and his noses are always fairly big and I want a more feminine nose.

I will look into Calvert, but who else has a stellar reputation for 3rd time rhinoplasty with removing some grafting? Especially more on the East coast...
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby Rhinosucks » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:30 pm

gigi70 wrote:Hi,

Coming on to 5 years post op from Menick. Still hate my nose - have to photoshop it in every picture. It's very big, much bigger than my original nose before my primary. Very long, wide (the spreader grafts were a concern of mine and I did not want them but he insisted) and there is no definition in the tip. The tip is very rounded and very unattractive.

Today my nose swelled up like crazy, I still get insane swelling just randomly. Is this normal 5 years post op? It literally looks potato like, almost like after the op. I don't understand the huge swelling so far out.

I still want to fix this but I did not like Le, too long a surgery time and his noses are always fairly big and I want a more feminine nose.

I will look into Calvert, but who else has a stellar reputation for 3rd time rhinoplasty with removing some grafting? Especially more onhe East coast...


what about pearlman in new york? i see him next week.
i am still considering dr le.
i have seen beautiful results.

also consulting with dr davis
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby TerriblerevisionfroMenick » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:01 am

I needed extensive rebuilding on my bridge and tip. Not only he did not rebuild my nose as we discussed he made it even thinner than before. My nose has the same issues as it did before the revision with him- upturned tip, scooped bridge, short and ugly. Now is even worse because he made my nose extremely crooked, asymmetric, and uneven with lots of visible bumps. Each side of the nose looks like it is from a separate face. I had 4 consultations with him and we were both on the same page about the goals. He was very confident that he can reach those goals. Now, after the horrifying outcome of the surgery, he says that he's done the best of his ability. If he was upfront about what he can actually achieve I would have gone with someone else. He made me think that there is no limit to what he can do in terms of rebuilding. My nose does not look "rebuild" although I have a 3-inch scar on my rib cage. I have no idea where all that cartilage from my rib plus what I had in my septum went because it did not go on my nose. Another thing he obviously has no clue about is attractive facial proportions. He left me with a kid size nose on my big and wide face. He narrowed my bridge and entire nose when it was already too narrow and I shared that concern with him multiple times. He did not want to make my nose wider although I wanted that so I compromised to leave it as it is and rebuild the bridge and tip from that frame. He did the exactly opposite of everything we agreed on before the surgery. He shaved my radix on the sides and way more on one side when I asked for it to be made wider because the first surgery made it thin and deformed. He made it way worse and I doubt that it can be corrected. My eyes don’t look even anymore because of how crooked and asymmetric the radix is. It looks like one eye is put lower and further to the side than compared to the other. The tip is leaning to one side and it has an ugly and upturned look from the front and side (especially one side). I was told by his receptionist that he makes natural looking noses but this cannot look any more botched and fake. I am horrified and still in disbelief that someone who is known to rebuild noses can ruin mine even further than before. If I could add photos here I would to see how disgusting my nose is.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby Rhinosucks » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:57 pm

TerriblerevisionfroMenick wrote:I needed extensive rebuilding on my bridge and tip. Not only he did not rebuild my nose as we discussed he made it even thinner than before. My nose has the same issues as it did before the revision with him- upturned tip, scooped bridge, short and ugly. Now is even worse because he made my nose extremely crooked, asymmetric, and uneven with lots of visible bumps. Each side of the nose looks like it is from a separate face. I had 4 consultations with him and we were both on the same page about the goals. He was very confident that he can reach those goals. Now, after the horrifying outcome of the surgery, he says that he's done the best of his ability. If he was upfront about what he can actually achieve I would have gone with someone else. He made me think that there is no limit to what he can do in terms of rebuilding. My nose does not look "rebuild" although I have a 3-inch scar on my rib cage. I have no idea where all that cartilage from my rib plus what I had in my septum went because it did not go on my nose. Another thing he obviously has no clue about is attractive facial proportions. He left me with a kid size nose on my big and wide face. He narrowed my bridge and entire nose when it was already too narrow and I shared that concern with him multiple times. He did not want to make my nose wider although I wanted that so I compromised to leave it as it is and rebuild the bridge and tip from that frame. He did the exactly opposite of everything we agreed on before the surgery. He shaved my radix on the sides and way more on one side when I asked for it to be made wider because the first surgery made it thin and deformed. He made it way worse and I doubt that it can be corrected. My eyes don’t look even anymore because of how crooked and asymmetric the radix is. It looks like one eye is put lower and further to the side than compared to the other. The tip is leaning to one side and it has an ugly and upturned look from the front and side (especially one side). I was told by his receptionist that he makes natural looking noses but this cannot look any more botched and fake. I am horrified and still in disbelief that someone who is known to rebuild noses can ruin mine even further than before. If I could add photos here I would to see how disgusting my nose is.


As a revision seeker I am so incredibly incredibly sorry you are in this situation. I hope someone has answers.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby TerriblerevisionfroMenick » Tue May 08, 2018 9:17 am

Menick messed up my nose so so bad. Both sides valve collapse, it was only one before the surgery. He made my nose smaller when I paid to make it big and long. He narrowed it so much that a Q tip cannot fit in there. He made it crooked, asymmetric with bumps and dents all over. There is so much scar tissue in the nostrils like huge pimples. All he said for himself was that he's done the best of his abilities... Obviously he is a very incapable surgeon and should never touch a face again but it is also obvious that he did not even try to give me the results we agreed on because he made my nose smaller than before when I asked for much bigger. He took my septum and rib (3-inch scar) and there is no rebuilding whatsoever. I am left with crooked, short, flat, asymmetrical nose that does not function and is extremely small for my face. I talk MJ small. Do not even consider him. I am not sure why he is doing this to people but stay away. He will waste your time during consultations, bullst you giving you all these promises, he will take your money, and will eff up your nose beyond recognition that nobody could ever fix. Now I look like I've been hit in the nose with a 20-pound dumbbell because it is so crooked and disgusting. Stay away!!!!
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby noseman123 » Wed May 09, 2018 9:46 am

TerriblerevisionfroMenick wrote:Menick messed up my nose so so bad. Both sides valve collapse, it was only one before the surgery. He made my nose smaller when I paid to make it big and long. He narrowed it so much that a Q tip cannot fit in there. He made it crooked, asymmetric with bumps and dents all over. There is so much scar tissue in the nostrils like huge pimples. All he said for himself was that he's done the best of his abilities... Obviously he is a very incapable surgeon and should never touch a face again but it is also obvious that he did not even try to give me the results we agreed on because he made my nose smaller than before when I asked for much bigger. He took my septum and rib (3-inch scar) and there is no rebuilding whatsoever. I am left with crooked, short, flat, asymmetrical nose that does not function and is extremely small for my face. I talk MJ small. Do not even consider him. I am not sure why he is doing this to people but stay away. He will waste your time during consultations, bullst you giving you all these promises, he will take your money, and will eff up your nose beyond recognition that nobody could ever fix. Now I look like I've been hit in the nose with a 20-pound dumbbell because it is so crooked and disgusting. Stay away!!!!

hi I sent you a message. Can I see a picture?
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby TerriblerevisionfroMenick » Sat May 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Noseman, yes, I can send you photos. If you are considering Menick just please don't. I don't know if he at any point cared about helping anyone but he has no interest in doing it now. I feel like he on purposely effed up my nose even more because nobody can be that incompetent. It looks like a blind individual performed my surgery. Also, he narrowed my entire nose beginning from the radix, one side of the bridge (this is what a surgeon told me that he pushed my bridge in on one side you will see on the photo), and the entire lower part of the nose now a Q-tip can hardly get inside. I have a very wide face so what he did is absolutely horrific. I am lacking words to describe how anyone can be this messed up in the head to do the opposite of what you paid for. He and his sidekick Tina are the most unethical individuals.
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Re: Unhappy Menick patient - where next?

Postby pinstripes11 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:52 pm

TerriblerevisionfroMenick wrote:Noseman, yes, I can send you photos. If you are considering Menick just please don't. I don't know if he at any point cared about helping anyone but he has no interest in doing it now. I feel like he on purposely effed up my nose even more because nobody can be that incompetent. It looks like a blind individual performed my surgery. Also, he narrowed my entire nose beginning from the radix, one side of the bridge (this is what a surgeon told me that he pushed my bridge in on one side you will see on the photo), and the entire lower part of the nose now a Q-tip can hardly get inside. I have a very wide face so what he did is absolutely horrific. I am lacking words to describe how anyone can be this messed up in the head to do the opposite of what you paid for. He and his sidekick Tina are the most unethical individuals.


I'm so sorry that happened to you! It's hard to trust surgeons after one bad result and now you've had two. You should consult with Dr. Most, he's the only surgeon I've seen with multiple examples of short nose and de-rotating tips that look good.

http://med.stanford.edu/drmost/gallery/ ... _gallery-5
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