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Anyone try Forticelle or Elastica?

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Anyone try Forticelle or Elastica?

Postby MissJ521@aol.com » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:29 pm

Anyone tried a product called; "Forticelle"? The other product like it is called "Elastica" I'm particularly interested in THIESE products because a Dr. Mitts is being sued for allegedly appropriating the trade secrets and using them to formulate Forticelle. Seems like he was on the development team with regard to formulating a product that increased elasticity of the skin and split with his partners who are now suing him.
Seems like it's a thing where he actually helped develop the product but his "intellectual property" was not his to take with him when he split up with his partners. With patents, when you work for a company and develop a formula, it's legally theirs even if you invent the stuff for them. With trade secrets it's the same except you don't take a patent out on them. His former partners have product called; Elastica and he has Forticelle.

Hey, I figure if they are suing over "trade secrets" with regard the formulation, it must be a good formulation. Anyone ever try either Forticelle or Elastica?

http://www.pg100.com/riutort/resources/ ... search.htm
http://www.elasticaonline.com/fresnobee.asp
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Postby DCNGA » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:46 am

I've never heard of these. I'm so DIY these days that I hardly ever look at true commercial stuff.

My brother-in-law is a molecular biologist dealing with cell research, genome projects, and DNA so I think I will have him look at it and see what he thinks. He holds MANY patents himself along with the University where he is a professor, but not in the skin care field--even though I keep telling him that is where the big bucks are :lol: .

Do you have a link to the patents by chance?

I know when something has YOUR interest it is also worth wathching :wink: .

Just did some further research on the "Elastin" or Forticelle products. Seems he is making a more commercial version sold at Target, :shock: of all places, called: ELASTOGENESIS.

You might google that. :)

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Postby MissJ521@aol.com » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:20 am

I don't have a link to the patent and I suspect they did not get a patent because the suit is about taking the "trade secrets" and not patent infringement. A patent is a double edge sword in a cosmetic formulation anyway because it's ALSO a RECIPE for making the stuff. A trade secret is where the recipe is secret.

I mean here we have a product in which a co-formulater is being sued for using the "trade secret". That's the intriguing part to me because that's an indicator that it could do something or this product has some potential (either one of them). Also, LOL, you know I don't go around buying stuff that's marketed as I make my own things. So, if I'm interested in those 2 products or tempted to try, that's a whole lot different from someone who tries every new product or a lot of them.

Not a whole lot of advertising and marketing go into these products which is also a positive indicator for a cosmetic formulation and can keep the product from hitting the outrageous cost zone.
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Postby MissJ521@aol.com » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:32 am

Great Detective work finding that link. So if he is selling at Target, it must not be that outrageous. It was selling at an upper East side PS's office last year for about $85. But I did not buy it then. I feel that IF a formulation is good, it can be re-marketed at a lower cost range or a company like Avon or something like that can pick up on formulating something quite similar and sell for lower rate.



DCNGA wrote:I've never heard of these. I'm so DIY these days that I hardly ever look at true commercial stuff.

My brother-in-law is a molecular biologist dealing with cell research, genome projects, and DNA so I think I will have him look at it and see what he thinks. He holds MANY patents himself along with the University where he is a professor, but not in the skin care field--even though I keep telling him that is where the big bucks are :lol: .

Do you have a link to the patents by chance?

I know when something has YOUR interest it is also worth wathching :wink: .

Just did some further research on the "Elastin" or Forticelle products. Seems he is making a more commercial version sold at Target, :shock: of all places, called: ELASTOGENESIS.

You might google that. :)

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Forticelle Products

Postby CAThieme » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:39 pm

I have been using Forticelle products for over a year. I tested out their eye cream first. Found fantastic results with tightening and lines. My patients love the eye cream. Then I tried their Body Lotion. Fantastic! It's great to start using 1 month before Lipo and/or surgery to that area. Great for the knees, elbows, shoulders, neck where you are constantly bending and as you grow older your elasticity really loses out. I used it on my legs first and noticing a more smoother look to my skin not so crepey. Then my upper arms which made the skin look tighter and not so flabby. It's great for old scars and new ones after surgery like breast lifts & tummy tucks. Scars never go away but the lotion sure makes them less noticeable. Way better than Mederma. The face creams are great to use also. They have a cream and a gel with Copper Peptide. The elastin peptides in that product is the best I've seen so far. The Forticelle line is sold by Clarity Skin Care products. They do have great before and after picture brochures.
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Re: Forticelle Products

Postby MissJ521@aol.com » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:31 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I can't seem to find a place to order it online.


CAThieme wrote:I have been using Forticelle products for over a year. I tested out their eye cream first. Found fantastic results with tightening and lines. My patients love the eye cream. Then I tried their Body Lotion. Fantastic! It's great to start using 1 month before Lipo and/or surgery to that area. Great for the knees, elbows, shoulders, neck where you are constantly bending and as you grow older your elasticity really loses out. I used it on my legs first and noticing a more smoother look to my skin not so crepey. Then my upper arms which made the skin look tighter and not so flabby. It's great for old scars and new ones after surgery like breast lifts & tummy tucks. Scars never go away but the lotion sure makes them less noticeable. Way better than Mederma. The face creams are great to use also. They have a cream and a gel with Copper Peptide. The elastin peptides in that product is the best I've seen so far. The Forticelle line is sold by Clarity Skin Care products. They do have great before and after picture brochures.
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Postby luvmycats » Tue May 26, 2009 3:21 pm

I treid to order the "Elastica" eye cream from a couple of different sites, and they are out of order. Must be good stuff!
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Postby DCNGA » Tue May 26, 2009 7:08 pm

Did you try here:

mdantiagingskincarephd.com/elasticaLin.htm
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Re: Anyone try Forticelle or Elastica?

Postby sasssfras » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:01 pm

I used this years ago--probably about 10 years ago a dermatologist turned me on to the Bounce Back Cream. It was absolutely the best product I had ever used. He quit carrying it and then I searched on line and found 1 plastic surgeon out of CA that carried it. It was around $80 years ago--somewhat pricey, but worth every dime. Then I couldn't find this doctor on line any more so I went to other products. To date, I have used much higher priced products, but nothing worked for me as well as Elastica. I am excited to have found it again. I hope I will be as excited about it as I have been in the past--my needs have changed. I'm 10 years older and my skin is losing elasticity due to menopause and weight loss. Can't wait to use the body lotion.
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