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Early 40's, early signs of aging...help!

Early 40's, early signs of aging...help!

Postby spunkykitty » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:56 pm

Hi,

I am 41 and while I have always taken care of my skin, I recently lost some weight and I am noticing the elasticity in my face is not the same and wanted to find a product that could help me with firming. I know there are a lot of products out there, but I was hoping some of you could give me feedback of products you have used and have had success with.

Thanks so much!

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Postby kylesmom9 » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:40 pm

Hi Spunkykitty,

I think the only thing that has been shown to increase firmness is DMAE.

I use a lot of DIY lotions with actives from various places, but Skin Actives Scientific is a good place to start. They sell ready made products at good prices.

Of course everyone our age should be on retin a if they can tolerate it!
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Postby hyeonjlee » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:12 pm

copper peptide is working out beautifully for me. I use the strongest version, and my skin tolerates it very well. However, some people are not gong ho about CP: they say their skin reacted with uglies. You should try the mildest form, and see if that works for you.

I am a regular user of Retin A, etc. In the past, I also used CP intermittently, and did not see much added improvements I could attribute to CP. But, when I started to use it ***correctly*** and religiously (about 3 months ago), I started to see gradual, but VERY MEANINGFUL difference. Faint lines that started to form around my eyes, between the eye brows, and on the nose bridge have mostly disappeared. Faint traces of old acne scars are also disappearing. My upper eye lids look definitely lifted (I used ALL AROUND the eyes).

As I said, CP is not for everybody. But, if you can tolerate it, there is nothing like it.
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Postby spunkykitty » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:54 pm

Thank you ladies for your answers. I will look into both of those, but I think I will also make an appointment with my dermatologist and see what he says, too.

Kylesmom. I looked at that company and they do have a DMAE serum...is that what I would use, or would I need to still mix it with something? Sorry, I have never done a DIY cream...hehe

And hyeonjlee, what brand of copper peptide do you use? I realize the brand the strength is all important, that is why I am asking.

Thanks again!
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:20 am

The DMAE serum she sells is premade...no mixing required. A lot of their premade stuff is great according to many on this board.
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Postby spunkykitty » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:22 am

Awesome, than I will go ahead and order it.

Thanks again!
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:43 am

Hyeonjlee,

What strength retin a do you use over your eyes, and do you mix it with moisturizer or anything? I tried patting some on there, but got a little scabby area in the crease...looked like I had eye surgery. lol

The retin a is starting to work wonders under my eyes...after I got past the crinkly dry stage with it.
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Postby ouch! » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:44 am

Kylesmom -- it might be the other cream you are using that is helping under your eyes too -- it seems to make a big difference there. Are you using it under your eyes also?
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:56 am

Yes I am using that cream under my eyes...and I suppose I have noticed more improvement in the last couple weeks.
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Postby spunkykitty » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:58 am

kylesmom9 wrote:Yes I am using that cream under my eyes...and I suppose I have noticed more improvement in the last couple weeks.


What cream would that be? I am just curious.
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:05 am

Sorry Spunkykitty...not trying to be cryptic. lol I just started using an estriol cream 0.1%.
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Postby amanda123 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:53 am

how are you all using the retin-a under the eye area. I've always been afraid to use it there, but the under eye area is the only place I really have issues with right now.

and Terri, how do you use the estriol with the retin-a - do you layer them? What strength retin-a?
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Postby spunkykitty » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:01 am

Hmmmm...so much to learn, thank you guys. I think this thread will be interesting to follow for me.

Anyone cares to tell me their daily routine, that is working for them? As far as what they are using and brands and all? Thank you so much.

Also anyone had luck with the DIY Creme de la Mer kit from the Skinactives site?
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:02 am

Hi Amanda,

I started out using a small amount of cerave (basic moisturizer) around the eye area, then using retin a over my whole face including under the eyes. I think this kind of buffered it so that skin didn't turn red and peely, but it did get a little dry. Now I can use it full strength under the eye with some moisture on top after it absorbs.

I am using the 0.025%, but when I finish this tube I am going to try the 0.05%. I am using the estriol cream every other day layering over the retin a. Using the protocol DCNGAs derm said to use for the premarin cream. I bought a compounded cream this time, but for subsequent orders I think I will try in house pharmacy and order the ovestin cream since I have more faith in the concentrations of estriol. :)

Here is Ds thread in case you didn't read it:
http://messageboards.makemeheal.com/vie ... p?t=112962
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:58 pm

kylesmom9 wrote:Hi Amanda,

I started out using a small amount of cerave (basic moisturizer) around the eye area, then using retin a over my whole face including under the eyes. I think this kind of buffered it so that skin didn't turn red and peely, but it did get a little dry. Now I can use it full strength under the eye with some moisture on top after it absorbs.

I am using the 0.025%, but when I finish this tube I am going to try the 0.05%. I am using the estriol cream every other day layering over the retin a. Using the protocol DCNGAs derm said to use for the premarin cream. I bought a compounded cream this time, but for subsequent orders I think I will try in house pharmacy and order the ovestin cream since I have more faith in the concentrations of estriol. :)

Here is Ds thread in case you didn't read it:
http://messageboards.makemeheal.com/vie ... p?t=112962



We need a head spinning round and round emotion! Just when I think I'm getting a little knowledge (which is true, it can be a dangerous thing) I learn more.

I have nothing of value to add, only I have used in house and will again. Now that there are more creams for me to check out.

On this posting, were all about the same age, well, I don't know about Ouch, I think/thought she was in her early 20s.

I use Retin under my eye. It can cause crinkling (I like that word) when the skin is shedding.
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