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Facial Exercises?

Postby luellasmiles » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:29 am

I'm still skeptical. The website Costmetics Cop says that facial exercises can actually cause wrinkles, not get rid of them since skin movement (along with aging, sagging tendons and stretched skin) is what causes droop in the first place.

You can the whole article debunking facial exercises here: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/skin-care-f ... racle.aspx

I can see how possibly neck exercises may be beneficial, since it is a different set of muscles but I'm sort of with her on the face thing.
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Postby natasha1 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:46 pm

Well, Paula B. never struck me as an honest person. You can not actually review and critisize different skin products and to have your own skin line at the same time. How about review of your own products. Here is a very contradictory statement of hers, I copied and pasted.
"Facial exercises won't reattach facial ligaments; that is only possible via surgery. One procedure in a surgical face-lift is to re-drape the muscle of the cheek and the jaw, drawing it back and then literally stitching it back in place where it used to be. Exercise doesn't reattach the ligaments, it just tones the sagging. "
Tones the sagging? is not it good enough for people who are not ready to go through face lift yet?
I am myself a very skeptical person and take "Ageless if you dare" with
the grain of salt. But to be honest, if Anette is 45 years old, her face looks incredible, it is not surgically altered you can tell and at the same time it seems like everything is lifted as with 20 year old person. I bought a book and started doing them and I totally do not agree with statement that the described exercises produce more wrinks since I do in in front of mirror. I have to admit that her "ocasional" exercises do not sound good, since it involves forehead moving and that really creates wrinkles. Other than this lifting the cheeksbones and toning the neck seem like they have to be effective. I heard about these exercises from Miss J in the first place and I do trust her and she got a very extensive knowledge in face anatomy and also was doing these exercises according to her. She is 54 and her lower face looks incredibly young, I mean her whole face looks very young , but I am the most interested in lower part of the face and she seems to be a living proof. I will report in time how it is progressing with my own face.
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Postby meeeeee » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:29 pm

of course people in the youth trade are going to say facial exorcises don't work. this threatens their lively hood. I have nothing to gain. I am 5 months in with Ageless if you dare, and i can tell you it works! I just visited a friend from out of town that I have not seen in 5 years, and she looked old, and she hounded me as to why I have not aged. It was not passing complements, she brought it up and persisted as if she really thought I looked the same. I told her, and you know what she said, Her dermatologist told her facial exercises make wrinkles worse.

If you are afraid - don't do them. I see a huge difference. I used to catch my reflection in store windows and cringe - not believing how old I looked, now when I catch a reflection, I can't believe I got it all back. It is a shock in a good way now. I have photos to prove this to myself. Even my hubby wanting to try because of my results.

anyone can tell you facial exercises are bad until they are blue in the face.........I can tell you without a doubt, they work. as far as actual wrinkles are concerned, I see no change good or bad, wrinkles were never a real concern for me, the sagging was horrible and thats is what motivated me. My whole face is lifted - cheeks, jaw, my lips have gotten fuller and wider. - back to the way everything was years ago. To be truthful I had forgotten how full my lips were until I got them back. The distance between my nose and top lip is shorter. in fact my whole face is shorter.

I love all the people writing in with documented fact that facial exercises don't work, and make things worse. Fine, so don't do them.

here is my advice, don't do them. don't invest $10 and your time. It seems to me people are much happier spending more time arguing about not doing them then actually finding out for themselves if they work.

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Postby meeeeee » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:02 pm

Just a thought...........We seem to have three groups here,

group 1 - people who have never tried facial exercises but say they don't work and make things worse, supported by articles and "facts" from "experts" in the youth industry,

group 2 - people who have tried them, have had good results and fully believe in them

and group 3 - fence sitters who don't know what to believe but are curious yet afraid.

We seem to be missing a group here, where is group 4? the group that has tried them, had no results - or worse had negative results, and made wrinkles worse - proof from a real person with no agenda with real experience that supports the naysayers?

It seems to me that all the naysayers are not speaking from experience, but from a speculative stand point instead.

the challenge..........

instead of listening to me and my opinion, (a regular person who actually has tried facial exercises and is selling nothing and has nothing to gain - and has had great results)

I challenge the world, someone out there who has also actually tried them, and has found that either they do not work, or that they have found their wrinkles and sagging to have worsened.

So no more articles and diatribes from all the "experts" about how they are useless or bad for you, I want proof from a real person who has actually done them - thats the person I want to hear from. You tell me they don't work.

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Postby natasha1 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:49 pm

Hi Meeeeeeeee !
I am not sure what group I would be in, because I bought the book and I tried them and I can tell with some degree of certainty that they do work but this is very fine line IMHO between them working in a good or bad way. I think the error margine is too slim. I started doing cheeks and they seem really lift up but I think there was some muscle by my eye was moved by it and I got some buldge there cause I do not beleive in coincedences ( I had u/l bleph over 4 years ago and this is very sensetive area for me). Same goes to my neck.I feel that if I am doing it a little bit off I could do more harm than good. Correct me if I am wrong. I am simply scared, I do not want to accelerate my aging ,even though I am 54, almost 55 I do not think that face lift an option for me right now. Do not get me wrong, I want them to work I just want some reassurance that it will not be any harm as far as sagging is concerned, I could care less about wrinkles.
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Postby meeeeee » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:15 am

Hi natasha1

I am in no way an expert, so I would not want to advise on anything I don't know. Is it the Ageless if you dare book that you have? if so you can go to Lulu's blog, she will answer anything you ask, plus there are a lot of people there who might be able to help.

since you have had work done, things may very well respond in a different way for you. perhaps you should only focus on areas not near the parts of your face that have had work. I cant see you accelerating aging but it could have an effect on the surgery. Go to lulu's Ageless if you dare blog, and see what she has to say. Don't do anything you are afraid of. that will only make you obsess more in my opinion.

I am not sure I understand, did you also have work done on your neck? because the neck exercises are fantastic and have great results for the jaw line as well - so it would be a shame to cut those out. I also cannot see sagging getting worse, that is the whole point. this stuff is great for sagging. muscles that build pull skin up with it, so sagging in my opinion shouled not be an issue.

let me know how it goes.

all the best to you.

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Postby natasha1 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:47 pm

Thank you very much meeeeeeeee for your response. No , I did not have any work done on my face besides my eyes. The neck area and a small jowls started to bother me. I have thin face and neck, and before menopause the jaw area and neck looked great. Last few years it is definetely getting worse and worse. The frastrating thing is I have never gain or loose much weight in this area and my skin is not bad at all, so it is all muscles and I try to do these Lulu's exercises for 2 months now but see no results and sometimes it seems like it gets worse maybe I am paranoid. I have been to her blog and web site but so far did not find the answers I am looking for. I saw her amature video but it is not all clear to me. A lot of people keep saying that her neck exercises are great. How does your neck feel after exercises., because I feel nothing, may be that is the problem. Thanks again
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Postby meeeeee » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:36 am

I find the neck exercises to be really great, did you take photos at the beginning? just so you have a frame of reference to compare with, there may be changes that you can't see without photos. It will also help with the paranoia. It will make any changes more clear, ie; things actually getting worse or not. do it now if you have not yet done so. you can even compare these to other photos you may already have.

you can actually post your questions to lulu. she may be able to help.

let me know what happens.

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Postby natasha1 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:28 pm

Hi meeeee !
it is actually really hard to make comparisons because for example I have a mirror where I check my neck from beneath (the worst angle). Some days it seems like it looks much better and some days much worse , it prorably all depends on even tiniest change of lighting, that is why I do not do it. The same goes to picture, even more so. But I keep doing them(exercises) anyways.
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