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Just wondering if anyone has gotten a noticeable firming/refining effect from Skin Biology's copper peptides. I tried them about a year ago, and after a significant case of the uglies, finally gave up. But I'm trying them again, this time to for firming/toning purposes. After two days of use, the uglies are back again! Should I keep trying or not bother??
You too?? The same thing happened to me when I tried them. Did you receive the book when you ordered from Skin Biology? The doc states that your skin may look worse before it looks better; but like you, I stopped using the products when this happened. So, you started using them again? Maybe I will too. Then we can suffer together The strange thing is that I used the products for weeks, and then all of a sudden, my undereye area looked terrible! I would also like to know if anyone has achieved any tightening or firming with these.
I recall reading on a different forum about having to be careful with using the copper peptides. It is possible to use too much for your particular skin and end up doing more harm than good. Maybe step down the frequency and amount. Like anything else, I think it might help overall but I don't expect miracles from one particular product.
 found the quote:
Caution: While moderate use of copper peptides stimulates collagen synthesis and has antioxidant effect (by stimulating the antioxidant enzyme superoxide dismutase), excessive use can have an opposite effect by increasing the levels of free copper and/or by triggering excessive production of metalloproteinases. Free copper promotes free radical damage and collagen breakdown leading to accelerated skin aging. Metalloproteinases can digest collagen and elastin, weakening the skin and causing sag. These problems do not seem to occur among the majority of copper peptide users. However, there are anecdotal reports indicating that such side-effects might happen with overuse or, rarely, even normal use in sensitive individuals. Ideally, a sufficiently large study is needed to better quantify these risk
Wow, I am more confused now than ever about whether to proceed with CPs. Have been using them for about four nights in a row - I don't use much, just about two drops of the serum diluted with equal part water for my whole face. I feel like, if you have to use so little and be so careful so as not to do damage and make things worse, then what on earth is the point of using it in the first place?? Maybe I will continue for the rest of the week, and then take stock. Butterfly, are you also going to give it a try? BTW, I never use CPs anywhere near my eyes as they are a real problem area for me. Much too scary!!
I'll keep at it for a little longer, and if it doesn't improve, I guess I'll just stick with Vit C. At least I know it won't make matters worse!!
Actually, I do use them myself, just carefully and follow the instructions. A little may be all you need to help. There are some very sensitive individuals out there. Try a good brand to start with, one that has gotten good reviews from a significant number of users and see if it helps you. They really are a great help in reducing irritation and helping with healing. There are also some made especially for the eye area. Like anything else, that's one place that can use a little extra pampering, but with a gentle touch.
I started with Neova Eye therapy. I don't use it daily right now, with the recent bleph and everything else going on. However, as stated, a little bit is wonderful for those healing areas. It doesn't irritate the sensitive eye skin like so many products can, which is one reason I like it for that application. That doesn't mean there aren't other good products out there. sexibeach is another person who swears by copper peptides. She may have some links to her preferred brand on her website or you might be able to get her attention and ask her about her experience and preferences.
Yes, I started using the peptides again. When I first used these products, I used the CP Night Eyes cream, which is a low concentration, especially for sensitive skin areas. I didn't have any problems after several weeks, and I started using the Super CP Serum. I think that I was using too much. As you stated, one only needs a few drops for the whole face. Maybe this can help you-- Dr. Pickart states in his book, that if you experience redness and irritation from the peptides, try applying emu or squalane oil first, and then the peptides. He feels that once your skin becomes acclimated to the products and starts to heal, the peptides will be better tolerated. Once that level has been attained, you can apply the peptides first and then apply the oil over that to help with penetration. Oh, I hope this makes sense! If I can help at all, please let me know. I started last night with the serum- only 4 drops for my whole face. Let's see how that treats me.
I'm glad you're willing to do this little "experiment" with me!
I'm thinking of taking a day off the CPs tonight, as my lower face area (the part I'd like to firm up with CPs) feels even looser than before. The stuff is weird; I just can't seem to find the right balance with it. And I'm using hardly any.
But I'll keep trying for a bit longer, at least to see if there is some reward on the other side of the "uglies." BTW, the main symptoms I am experiencing are increased crepiness and looseness/sagging.
Hi Good Witch, without belaboring the issue, I wanted to provide you with this link to Dr. Pickart's website. Please read through #2, which I was trying to explain with my last post. Also, check out #6, which addresses the issue of loose skin while using the peptides. http://www.skinbio.com/usingsrcps.html#1 It seems that the loose skin is just a phase that will eventually go away. I know, I don't want to deal with it either! Hope this helps. I'll keep up with the serum, too. Good luck
I read all this long before I took the CP plunge. That's why I highly recommend taking the long, slow road with these.
I've read on other forums about the uglies as well. I did experience some, but briefly, when I moved up in strength. It always went away.
I've never had any problems with my eyes that didn't correct itself. I started w/ the GHK serum (the mildest), then moved up to Night Eyes Premier. This road worked for me. I saw great improvements w/ just the GHK. If you're worried about your eyes - that's a good one to go with.
Skin Biology copper peptides have been a disaster for me. I've got new lines around my mouth and skin looks saggy. Perhaps I was too aggressive but am not going to use them again... Very upsetting to see the damage when expecting improvements. I hope people are cautious when using these products - very scary to see the damage.
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