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Cool Glide Excel Laser - Veins, Eye Area. Pls help!

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Cool Glide Excel Laser - Veins, Eye Area. Pls help!

Postby eva1 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:32 pm


I have purple veins on my eyelids and under eye area that are so hard to conceal. I've been looking for a treatment forever. I heard this laser Cool Glide Excel can work for veins in the eye area. Has anyone had treatment with this laser for veins in the eye area (or other facial area)? Did it work? What colour were the veins?

I live in Vancouver BC and can't find a dr that uses Cool Glide Excel Laser but have come across it in the US. If you have any dr. or treatment recommendations (any location is ok w/me), please advise!

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Postby Candiru » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:31 pm

Hey there, looks like we're in the same boat. I had a consult with Dr. Berman in Palo Alto a while back; he uses coolglide for blue facial veins but for some reason he wanted to use a Vbeam under my eyes.

I'm having a consult with a doc who uses dornier and sciton lasers for vascular issues, I'll keep you updated on how the appointment goes.

The South seems a lot more cutting edge. They've got docs over there who are willing to do sclerotherapy. If the lasers don't work I might end up booking a flight for ATL.
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Postby DCNGA » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:32 pm

If you come South, try contacting Harold Brody at Atlanta Dermatology. I've been using him for years. I don't know what he would do for your exact problem, but I can tell you that he would be truthful as to what might or might not help to improve the problem. He's a no bunk, no hype kind of doctor. No nonsense, too.

Best of luck,

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Postby eva1 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:41 pm

Thanks for both your responses.

Candiru, I've been corresponding w/Dr. Berman's office but he wont even be seeing me for the consult and actual treatment, which concerns me if I'm going to fly all the way down there. Have you heard if is office is good or anything about his/their work? My veins on my eyelid are purple so I'm not even sure if cool glide would work b/c as you say its for blue veins. However, this is the first time I've heard of someone being able to treat veins in the eye area so I may check it out. Pls let me know about your doctor's visit.

If anyone else has had any success with eye vein treatment please advise on particulars. I'm feeling desperate to do something about it...
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Postby Candiru » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:59 pm

All I've looked at is the before and afters on his website. I have a lot of vascularity and darkness under my eyes, so he actually wanted to do V-Beam and Co2 resurfacing. I was only going to go for the vascular laser though at least for now. He quoted me about $800 for that.

Seems plausible that purple vessels might respond better than blue as these lasers apparently have a higher affinity for the red end of the spectrum and are geared toward treating arterial telangiectasias.

My appointment up here is on Friday. It's with a vein clinic, not a PS. I'll check in here afterwards.
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Postby Candiru » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:54 am


I just got back from my appointment and I'm feeling pretty good. I was expecting the Dr. to come in and hem and haw and recite the difficulties of treating these veins, but he acted like this was nothing new to him. I guess that's the difference between a PS who treats veins on the side and a vein specialist. So I am set to go later this month. He will either use a Dornier or Sciton laser. Apparently the larger the blood vessel, the more sting from the laser (absorbs more energy), and these are fairly large recticular veins, so he's going to swab them down with a cocktail of anesthetics first. $350 per treatment; should take between 1-3 visits. At any rate it's less than half of what I would be paying at the Palo Alto clinic.

Good luck!
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Postby Candiru » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:56 pm


Today was my appointment for the laser surgery. I went in a half hour early so the nurse could anesthetize the peri-orbital area with this stuff they call BLT (benzocaine, lidocaine and tetracaine). I'm not sure if she knew what I was there for because I looked in the mirror and noticed the goop was just about everywhere on my face except under my eyes, so I tried to smear it under there without getting it IN my eyes (it's supposed to burn like crazy).

A half hour later I was led into the laser room. The doc came in and decided to go with the Sciton. He zapped me a couple times and I didn't feel a thing. Unfortunately the cooling mechanism was getting in the way so he switched to the Dornier. It's my understanding the Dornier is on a different wavelength and works a little better on red veins though is apparently as effective on blue veins. The thing with the Dornier is it has a separate cooling apparatus, so a nurse had to come in and hold it while the doctor went to work with the laser. I don't know if the nurse wasn't hitting the right spot or the BLT wasn't smeared on good enough, but I definitely felt a few of the shots, I could feel one vein fry pretty bad (btw it doesn't feel anything like a rubber band snapped across the skin like I've read on every website, it's a burning sensation just as one might expect) but he hit me with it over 40 times and all in all it was pretty damn painless. The key is to actually have the anesthetic where it's supposed to be and the cooling agent over your vein and not directed up your nose (which for some reason is what was happening to the point of my nose feeling frostbitten) :roll:

So far so good. I am very pleased right now. I am going to withhold final judgement until I'm at least a couple weeks out. He wants to see me again in about a month just to see where I'm at. Now I do still see a few vessels if I look close, but I really can't tell if these have turned grey and will just take time to be absorbed or if they have to be treated again. Considering sometimes people have to go back 3 to 5 times, I really couldn't complain about undergoing another session.

I never really got a post-op consult. The girl at the billing desk told me to stay out of the sun and to report anything unusual. There's not even any bruising or anything, it's awesome.

If anyone has any questions about this, feel free to respond or PM me.
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Postby eva1 » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:29 am


Thanks for keeping us updated on your treatment.

Your treatment sounds like it went well besides the prep lotion experience - glad to hear it. Can you please let me know the name of the clinic, dr, and what city you are in?

I have some questions:

* do you have veins on your upper eyelid? can you pls describe what they looked like in terms of colour and location before treatment?

* what do the veins look like after treatment? It sounds like they became grey or faded or they disappeared all together?

* what is the down time and skin appearance after treatment? Any bruising or swelling or redness?

Looking fwd to hearing from you. If you would rather pm me the info above that works as well.


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Postby lillabeth » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:45 pm

I too have blue veins above and below my eyes. With new ones appearing. I have been searching forever for information. I went to a vein Doctor in my area but he said he could not help me because there was not bone under where the worst vein was/under my eye. That was a couple of years ago. Has technology improved? This truly makes me feel bad about my appearance. I would be appreciative of any information. What type of Doctor should I be searching for...Vein Specialist, Plastic Surgeon? I live in Florida.

Thank you!
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Postby Candiru » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:33 pm

Hey Lillabeth,

Hmm. My doc did feel for my orbital bone but he also pulled my skin down really hard so he was actually lasering them off my cheek rather than right under my eye, if you can picture that. Do you have any pics of your eyes? It would give me a better idea if they're anything like mine. What do you mean by above your eyes? Are they on the ridge or your eyelid?

I would definitely look for a vein specialist. They even do sclerotherapy for this nowadays down in the south, so you may be in luck if for some reason no one wants to use a laser.
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Postby lillabeth » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:05 am

Hi Candiru,

Thank you for writing. I don't have any pictures. But I did go to yet another Vein specialist yesterday and he said he just doesn't like to touch the veins under the eyes. Said if I could find an Oculoplastic who could maybe shield the eyes. He said he could inject but he thought they were small and I could end up with a nasty black eye. To me they are not small but he sees a lot more than I do. One is even slightly vericosed, he said he even saw it. He said I was being hard on myself. They actually run down from under the eyelid towards the upper cheek. Like yours they could be pulled down to the bone. I think the one even hits the bone now. I have four very faint ones on the other side so they should be real pretty one day. :) I guess somethings I am just going to have to accept. He also mentioned that maybe if I did lasering on the skin to tighten the skin and then I mentioned 'you mean or getting my eyes done' because the skin is getting thinner there. He said it might thicken the skin and they may not be as noticable. He is the second person to say that to me. Sooooo....no real solution yet. I live in FL, how far south are you....where did you find a Doctor to help you? If it's okay to ask!

How are yours doing?

Thanks again!
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Postby Candiru » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:54 am

That tightening he's talking about would come from laser resurfacing, which is way more invasive and takes weeks to heal from. I had a consult for it (co2), maybe one day when I have about a month to hide out in my house I'll think about doing it.

I'm actually on the West Coast.
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Re: Cool Glide Excel Laser - Veins, Eye Area. Pls help!

Postby lindsay87 » Fri May 10, 2013 9:06 pm

I have never posted on a board before but I felt like I needed to. I am a 25 yr old female n up until a yr ago I didn't have any blue veins under my eyes. Yes they got dark sometimes but would go away. Last yr I had a serious illness that left me bedridden for 4 months. During that time I developed very noticeable blue veins specifically under my left eye. The main one that bothered me was a vein that ran exactly where a bag under your eye would be. Kinda like a half moon. No matter if I wore foundation or cover up, I still looked like I had been in a street fight. My friends n family told me that once I got healthy again it would go away. So I tried eating clean n getting wonderful rest n got healthy. But lo n behold those stupid blue veins never went away n everytime I looked at them they reminded me of my illness. Kinda like a scar. Long story short I HATED them n my self confidence took a beating. Cried every time I looked in the mirror. I live on the Iowa boarder but heard of a dr in the Chicagoland area who uses a laser to treat blue veins under eyes. Which is rare. Many drs won't do it or even have the technology. I was very nervous to go but took someone with me on the 3 hr drive. I went to dr stan kovak in oakbrook. He was very nice n confident n says he does this all the time n would even feel confident to do it on his own family. He took me to the room, leaned me back n zapped my left eye about 15 times to make sure it was all gone. I have to be honest the laser does hurt n will make u flinch but nothing unbearable. The whole procedure took 5 mins or less. He let me look in the mirror n although my skin was red I couldn't see any veins! He gave me an ice pack to take with me. I didn't have any bruising n the swelling I did have was very slight. Only I noticed it. He told me if it comes back in a month that I can return do a 2nd treatment but so far so good. I can't tell u how happy I am. N bonus... It's only $250 per eye n I only had one done. Well worth the drive n money. I would recommend dr kovak in a heartbeat. But I don't think it was cool glide. But it started with a V is all I can remember. I really hope I helped someone. You will not be disappointed!
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