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Adhesions?

Adhesions?

Postby Bouge » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:40 pm

Hi All - Even after 14mos, I still have a pulling, something's "stuck" inside pain, and I'm convinced it's adhesions. Naturally, my PS never mentioned that possibility to me.

So, now what? Is there a way to diagnose that? I would guess the only treatment would be another incision to remove them?

Has anyone had any experience with this?

Thanks, Lee
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Postby roccos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:46 pm

surely "adhesions" would have dissolved by now?
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Postby Bouge » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:57 pm

Hi Roccos - Thanks for the reply!

That's a nice thought, but no - adhesions are like internal scar tissue, and can "glue" things together in there. Sometimes, even the intestines can be adhered, causing all kinds of problems. Once they develop, they are there to stay, unless there is medical intervention.

Well, at least that's what I think. I would be happy to be wrong though! I like your idea better!

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Postby 50nfightinit » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:35 pm

Hey Lee!! I too have tossed that idea around. My right side from the very beginning has had stiffness and pains when moving around. My scar even dips lower on the right. I remember my PS saying the stiffness should work out once he took the drains out, however, that did not happened. You are correct in saying adhesions do not go away and the only way they can be corrected is with additional surgery. Maybe something insurance would pay for?! It might just be your ticket. Hope you're doing well, I'll bet it’s really cold in NY huh? I know here in the heartland we're in a deep winter freeze! Take care - Gale
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Postby ChangingtheBod » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:08 pm

My son had adhesions after an appendectomoy. They were diagnosed with a CT scan. Yours would be above the muscle layer but I would guess it would show up with a CT. Don't know if an ultrasound would show it.

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Postby Bouge » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:36 pm

Thanks for the replies! I have read that 90% of abdominal surgeries result in adhesions - it is almost impossible to prevent them. Normally they are not a problem.

Gale, I think you and I just had some bad breaks! I'm not sure, but I think Gip was having this problem also. That's an interesting thought about insurance, however, adhesions can be removed laproscopically, so they probably wouldn't cover incision repair.

** Here in upstate NY, we got pounded with snow!!! My area got three feet! It's everywhere!

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Postby nimbus » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:47 am

I had adhesions from my WLS that did not show up on CT scan or x-ray. I had emergency surgey to clear them out as they were choking my stomach and small and large intestine, and had been working their way up to my lungs and liver. They can be very dangerous indeed. The only symptom I had was pain when I ate, but that pain actually turned out to be IBS cramps, they saved my life. I'm sure I would have had pain had the adhesions been allowed to progress, but it was the IBS cramps that kept recurring that made my doc decide that enough was enough and he booked me an OR before he even told me he was thinking adhesions. After they removed hem they pour this medicine in you to reduce the chance of the adhesions regrowing. My general surgeon checked during my hernia repair and said my innerds still looked adhesion free.
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Postby chicagofaythe » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:17 pm

Hi bouge,
I'm new to Tummy Tuck. I'm orignally from Butt Augmentation. Anyway, I wandered over here. I've had 2 c-sections and the old fashioned gallbladder surgery (long diagonal scar). The reason I've haven't had a tt is because 3 different pss would not recommend doing it because of the possibility of adhesions from the gallbladder scar. I came on this forum trying to see if any other women have had the gallbladder scar but still had a tt so far I have found one.
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Postby Bouge » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:57 am

Good Morning Chicago!

Yeah - Not many women are even aware of what adhesions are, much less that they are very common with a tt. Luckily, most don't cause any problems.

At least all your ps's have been up front with you about it. Mine certainly never mentioned it, but given my results, that doesn't surprise me.

I haven't had any other kind of abdominal surgery, so can't really help you there. I don't see why a good ps couldn't cut away the adhesions during the procedure - unless they involve your intestines. In that case, it would be hard to safely remove them without doing any damage.

Best of luck - keep me posted. Bouge
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Postby nimbus » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:38 am

I find that so odd! I had a 13" abdominal scar from chest to below my bb from my WLS and adhesion removal surgery (both through the same scar) and my PS never said boo about adhesions. My hernia was very extensive (11cm by 20 cm) and my guts were protruding out to just below my skin. (there was no fascia layer between my skin and my intestines and other organs) If your PS is afraid of other organ involvement and did not suggest asking a general surgeon to assist then I think I would look for a new PS. My PS said he would need a general surgeon because of the extent of my hernia, but mentioned that anytime he thinks there could be organ involvement he brings in a general.

Also, adhesions cannot be seen on scans, they can only be diagnosed through exploratory surgery. The damage they are causing is what can be seen on scans like a blockage but the actual adhesion is not visible on x-ray or CT. Check out this web site, it will tell you all about adhesions! http://www.emedicinehealth.com/adhesion ... cle_em.htm

Good luck to you! I hope you find a good doc who’s not afraid of a scar!
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Postby Stef42 » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:42 pm

I don't think you can get adhesions from a TT. Not intestinal adhesions at least. The surgeon would have to invade the abdominal cavity in order to create an atmosphere for adhesions. Adhesions are scars and scar tissue. They can strangulate the organs and cause pain by pulling adjacent organs together.
According to my PS they were nowhere near my abdominal cavity. Evreything was done above the muscle. So unless you had something else done at the same time I think maybe it's just muscular pains and twinges that your feeling.
I could be wrong but i don't want you to worry.

Let us know what your doc says.

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Postby Bouge » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:33 pm

Stef42 -

Well Now - That is food for thought!!! Okay, so we all agree that adhesions are basically internal scar tissue. But whether the incision goes deep enough to cause them is the question.

I'm very intrigued now! Your post does make perfect sense. Maybe we should see if one of the Doc's can answer this one.

Thanks alot - I'll be happy to get my facts straight!!
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Postby ddrmax » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:05 pm

There was a post that debeeanne asked this question. And I actually had this happen and my ps cut the scar away and took this tool and he cut the skin apart and after this the pain was gone. This is what it look like 3 days after




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