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Dermarolling Part 2

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Postby skip78 » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:31 am

Dear Michelle,

I did my second roll last Thurs and I tried to press as you told me. I saw just some blood spots on my forehead, I had the face red for just half a hour and then the days after I saw a few of red spots. Now after 5 days all the things are normal. Now I need to go on once per week for 6 further treatments?
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Postby MichelleP » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:39 pm

Hi there Marco. So you must be rolling a little more aggressively then. That's good, you're more likely to get good results. Yes I get red dots on my skin for a few days after a roll too.

So you've done 2 rolls now, so do another 4 over the next 4 weeks and then have a break for 12 weeks. Decide at the end of the 12 weeks whether you'd like to go with another 6 treatments again for more improvement.
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Postby MichelleP » Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:20 pm

Marco I've PM'd you.
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Postby foxeskier » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:36 pm

I just discovered this thread. Didn't know you guys had been discussing this here. I've been reading the EDS one for months now.

I've done my 6th roll to my face. I've used a 1.5mm Dr. Roller. I rolled about every 3 wk or so. Once at 2 wks and another couple times every 4. I had to skip a roll one time due to a bad reaction from Tea Tree Oil which I used for an antiseptic. My face broke out badly from it and that lasted a couple of months. For numbing - I started out w/ ice and don't think I got much action out of the roller, so I bought some trilocaine. That wasn't strong enuf, so I bought Emla (which works!). I believe my last roll (yesterday) was the best and that was the first time I used Elma.

I use Vitamin A - regularly for years, so I did not need to add that to my routine (Retin A). I have had such great results from Copper Peptides, so that is my choice of actives for my face instead of Vit C.

On my last roll, I applied Elma after cleansing. I soaked the roller in alcohol and rinsed. ( I would do this as I went along too) Removed the elma and applied Retin A and rolled. Afterwards,I showered and then applied my CPs.

My face has a very sunburned look to it one day post rolling. I can see track marks as well. I also can see less of my '11's' - but I'm sure that's due to inflammation. Rolling my upper lips was still unbearable-even w/ the elma. I think I need to numb the lips themselves to get close enuf to the edge of the lips w/ the roller. The good thing about my 11's is that I am one month overdue for my Botox to that area. Come to think of it, my crow's feet don't look so bad either. I am curious how much Botox it will take when I go in for my next round.

CPs have done great things for me as far as lessening of wrinkles, getting rid of skin tags, tightening up lax skin, giving my face a nice textue and glow (and giving me a much younger look - 15 years younger to be exact!).

I'm hoping the roller can help get those CPs in deeper, but I am also hoping the 1.5mm will do it's own collagen generating for me. No reason I can't look 20 years yougner - right??
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Postby skip78 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:42 am

MichelleP wrote:Marco I've PM'd you.


Many thanks for the PM and sorry for being late in replying you.
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Postby teresa » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:39 am

This is fascinating information!

I would love to hear any updates, especially if you are doing it for older skin. I understand it works great for scarring, how does it work for lines and plumping?

Thanks!
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Postby hyeonjlee » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:49 pm

I would like to try dermarolling to remove the last remaining (faint) traces of old acne scars.

Some questions:

(1) where do you get dermaroller? I did ebay search and the prices range greatly. Are the more expensive gadget that much better or should I just get a basic one.

(2) do you need to buy a NEW dermaroller everytime? Or, is it reusable? Or, is there a refill for the needles?

(3) what's the proper skin prep RIGHT BEFORE/at the time of rolling?

(4) What's the proper aftercare immediately after rolling - just emu oil type soothing care or can you use active ingredients?

(5) Can you resume all the regular skin care products the next day?

thanks
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Postby DCNGA » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:46 pm

There may be some useful information here:

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Postby hyeonjlee » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:58 am

DCNGA

I checked all the past posts on dermarolling.

A question still unanswered: how soon after dermarolling can I use ALL the skin care products - some pretty strong active ingredients like Retin A, AHA, strong CP etc? For instance, if I do dermarolling in the evening, can I resume the routine with all these products next morning? If not, how long should I wait?
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Postby DCNGA » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:37 am

Try to find Foxeskier, who's a user here (think she answered in the first thread or this one and she's on the Skin Care board, too). She uses some/most of the products you mention, plus she uses the dermaroller, too. Email or PM her, she will likely be able to tell you.

Here's what Foxeskier said above:

On my last roll, I applied Elma after cleansing. I soaked the roller in alcohol and rinsed. ( I would do this as I went along too) Removed the elma and applied Retin A and rolled. Afterwards,I showered and then applied my CPs.


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Postby smile420 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:37 am

foxeskier- what is elma? I have never heard of it. Where did you get it?

Thank you, Lorrie
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Postby tennismom42 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:59 pm

I just found this thread, and I have been researching dermarolling for a few weeks. I just ordered the rollers from Dr. Roller, and I should be started in a few weeks when they arrive. I heard that people had good results for stretchmarks, scars and wrinkles, so I'm really excited to try this.

Lorrie, I think I saw the Emla cream on amazon.com, but I did hear people warn that it must be used properly because it is dangerous. Others have used ice to numb, and I ordered the numbing agent from the Dr. Roller site (lipocaine I think?).

I will be applying Vitamin C in the morning and Retin A at night. I'll post an update once I've started.
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Postby smile420 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:47 am

tennismom42 -
So glad you showed up!!! I need a roller buddy!! :D

I got the Dr. roller as well a week ago (1.5). I also got the lidocaine from this web site. I kind of followed the instruction on youtube and the dr.roller web site. I had read that you leave the lidocaine on for 30-40 minutes. I noticed it starting to wear off after maybe 20, so I reapplied and rolled after waiting an addition 20 minutes only. pain free with the lidocaine. I had little droplets of blood all over my face, but that was about it. Washed my face afterwards and applied cooper peptides. Within a coupld hours after rolling, my face look plumper, prettier with less wrinkles. It has been almost a week and my skin is sooo soft and smooth. It seems to have removed all the dry "needed to be exfoliated" skin.
I have noticed today that I have alot of freckles coming to the surface?? I kind of think I remember reading that there is an "ugly" phase while the skin is been remodled. I order the small .5 roller as well.
I plan to use the 1.5 once a week for 6 weeks and then take a couple months off to guage improvement. But I also plan to roll with the .5 daily to push in my products. I also plan on trying the smaller on on my stomach scar from my c-section.

As you can see- I am pretty excited. So tell me your plan - or if you have already started. I cant wait to hear your experiences and compare.

(BTW- it seems like rolling would be a great idea right before a party or something, because my skin looked really beautiful afterward. I think it was the swelling :? :lol: )

waiting with anticipation!
Lorrie
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Re: Dermarolling Part 2

Postby tennismom42 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:40 pm

Lorrie,
I don't know how I missed your post, but I'm sorry it's been so long. I just started this week. I used a 1 and 1.5 on my stomach and parts of my legs. I didn't buy the .25mm needed for the Lidocaine (didn't read that part), so I rolled lightly with the 1mm and then put 4 drops of Lidocaine on. I still felt quite a bit of discomfort, so I guess I'm a wimp :( I just ordered Emla for numbing so I will see how it compares. I plan to roll once a month, because I read some information that you can destroy the collagen process if you roll more often with a 1.5mm. I did have some red blood spots. I waited 3 days after rolling and am applying Vitamin C in the morning and Retin A at night. Someone said to wait a few days after rolling because these products can't be used on broken skin. Unfortunately, I am breaking out in a rash everywhere because of the RetinA. I plan to roll my arms (1mm), hands (.5mm) chest (1mm) and face (1mm), but my skin there is extremely thin, so I'm nervous.

It sounds like you're doing great, so I can't wait to hear how it's going. How much lidocaine are you using at once? I have heard it can be very dangerous and shouldn't be used on large areas. I can't quite figure out how much is too much, though. I can't believe you used a 1.5mm on your face....very brave :) Good luck!
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