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Postby sherryf135 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:27 am

Does anyone on this board know anything about this?
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:05 am

Hi. Only what I've read on the 'net ,YTF and EDS. A lot of people love it but I think for at home use, maybe starting out with the smaller needle/prick size might be best.

I've heard it can do a great job on "remodeling" acne scars and "spurring" collagen production, but I don't know if that is hype or truth.

If you try it, let us know how it goes. Maybe someone will come along with experience with it. I hope so as I am curious, too.

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Postby sherryf135 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:05 am

Thanks DCNGA for the quick reply. I have been reading about it on EDS. There is so much on there. I know you are a good source of information.

I have these awful lines above my lips.

I have used l2kiss. I didn't like putting heat to my face. I shave, I use a retinol, I use ha, inside and out. I use copper peptides. I use emu oil. I have used it all. Nothing.

Thanks, I will keep on researching. If anyone on this board has any experience on this. I would greatly appreciate it.
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Postby DCNGA » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:02 pm

Honestly, short of maybe a chemical peel (you know I won't be recommending laser resurfacing :D ) or fillers, I don't know what you can do for them.

Fillers make mine disappear, but there is the upkeep. The good thing is that the more times I have fillers done, the less often I need to have them done. I think it causes collagen to form in the areas where you are injected. I can go almost 9 months now without refills for above my lips. But, maybe I'm just lucky--I'll take either.

Good luck and let us know if you get it.

Thanks,

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Postby yunpah » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:32 pm

Hey D,

I haven't been on the boards in a while, and it's good to see you started the DIY board. Do you mind me asking -- do you get the filler put in your upper lip, and does that make the lip slightly fuller as well as getting rid of the little lines above the lip?

Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge on these types of things, and the DYI board looks great. I am doing more reading now.
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Postby DCNGA » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi yunpah.

I only have the filler in the vertical lines (some call them smoker lines, but I never smoked) above my lip--none in the margin or the lip itself.

Since Juvye/Resty seek or draw water, my upper lip does plump up a bit around the edge, but over time it goes down.

Thank you for your nice words. Wish more people were interested in DIY, maybe with time they will see the worth.

Take care.

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Postby KadeeBelleMD2B » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:57 pm

Derma-rolling, or medical needling is something that we do at our office. Pretty cool procedure, but kind of brutal (like a lot of plastic surgery). I works wonders. But, it does require some anesthesia. :)

I highly doubt an at home roller would do much though
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Postby MichelleP » Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:52 am

Hi there,
I just bought the 1.5mm size but haven't started using it yet. I read all 19 pages on EDS and some there are about to buy the 2mm! The company I purchased mine through even sell up to 2.5mm. And only some ladies are even using the numbing creme. I haven't got any numbing creme so am going to do the icing method that one lady said works well. Going to give it a whirl tomorrow night. I think I'll start lightly at the beginning and see how I go. Will let you know how it goes.
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Postby KadeeBelleMD2B » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:37 am

DCNGA wrote:Honestly, short of maybe a chemical peel (you know I won't be recommending laser resurfacing :D ) or fillers, I don't know what you can do for them.

D


Dermabrasion is the gold standard of treatment for perioral lines. :)
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:48 am

Duh, I knew that. I just personally never think about dermabrasion because I've read some not so great stories about demarcation lines. A couple of ladies on here who've had it done just above the lip have complained about texture difference and skin tone difference.

But, you are right it is the gold standard for this and acne scars.

Thanks for reminding me, KD.

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Postby KadeeBelleMD2B » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:51 am

I knew you knew, but I thought I'd give ya a nudge ;)
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Postby MichelleP » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:55 pm

Sherry and D,
An article on rolling for lip lines if you're interested.
www.psp-interactive.com/issues/articles/2007-01_07.asp
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:40 pm

Excellent article, Michelle. You have the smaller size they mention, or maybe a little larger than the smaller one, don't you? How will you clean it? Also, are you concerned about cold sores? I'm prone to those and had to be treated before and after my laser resufacing to keep them away, as mentioned in the article.

Please keep us updated how the at-home roller is working for you as I'm really very interested in this. I don't know that any docs here offer the procedure. My lip lines are not as bad as any in these pics, so I'm betting one treatment would take care of mine. I would much rather pay to have this done once a year, opposed to fillers over the lip.

I read about it last year, on a European forum. It is used extensively in England and there's a well known derm who does this procedure with great success with the larger needles on acne scarring.

Keep us updated, Michelle.

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Postby MichelleP » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:56 pm

Hi DCNGA,
Yes I have the 1.5mm roller, the next size up from the small one the Dr in the article uses. The company I purchased through sell up to 2.5mm, but I'd rather go slower without all the bleeding and bruising. The cleaning instructions that came with it say to soak the roller in half a cup of disinfectant for half an hour and leave on a clean towel to air dry. If you're prone to cold sores and are rolling at home you need to be sure not to roll on the actual lip itself so as not to get a break out, otherwise if you go to a Dr they will put you on the antivirals. I know you always prefer to go to Drs for all your procedures, but as no one is doing needling in your area maybe you could try it at home yourself, but only as deep as you feel comfortable with. And make sure not to needle the actual lip. And from what I'm hearing it's great for any area of the body.
I plan on rolling my hands, arms, face, neck, and chest, starting with my face tonight. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.
By the way I love the Osar Wilde quote.
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Postby KadeeBelleMD2B » Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:01 am

wow... u guys must be tough!!! there is no way I could medical needle myself. 8) Let us know hoe it goes michelleP.
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