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How many, how long do you mix, wear a DIY product

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How many, how long do you mix, wear a DIY product

Postby Barbiewannabee » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:37 am

I'm not sure where I should post this.

I'm having a great time with DIY lotions and potions (I see a witch over a large black pot stirring;-D).

How long do the frequent people that mix give a product to work?

Every time I think I have one down, someone (Terri;-D))) will come along and mention another, before I know it, I'm taking notes, thinking I want to try this one too!

Is there one product you stick with? One you really wouldn't stop using? One that you tried and the house exploded, oops, I could be projecting on that one :shock:

But really I am curious how long one gives a treatment to work before moving on to the next?
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Postby DCNGA » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:27 pm

I had your same issues, Barbie, when I first started. I've told this before but it's almost criminal (if not bankrupting) how many actives I bought when I first started doing DIY. I read, read, read, read and kept seeing things that made me think that the next thing would be the best cream and save my skin. I would discover it. Then I figured out if "it" was there to be discovered someone else (like Terri) who understood DIY would have already discovered it.

I eventually just started buying ready-made products from SAS because I became too frustrated with the chemistry stuff (measurements, emulsifiers, percentages, etc.). It actually made me anxious, so I had to go to ready-made to save my sanity.

I do want to try Terri's Amlactin lotion though and a couple of others she's come up with. If it's not simple (like putting ascorbic acid in the palm of my hand and mixing with water), I just don't do it anymore. I was not confident enough in myself to do it properly with regard to the chemistry part.

What learning about DIY did for me was to teach me not to be "duped" by large cosmetic companies or an ad agency's hype about products and "miracles". There are none, honestly--not for skin anyway. It's all a process, takes time and patience.

So, to your original question it would depend on what you "want" from what you're making. Different concoctions will take varying amounts of time depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

Overall, my skin started improving (texture, tone, pore size) within in a month of going to SAS products. I was already using Tazorac, so SAS just augments that for me.

For me, the salicylic wash, a vitc serum, plus a couple of creams here and there are all that I use now., along with the Taz. My skin just seemed to "balance" after I started using DIY products (SAS) and I break out less, have brighter skin, and am overall happier with my skin.
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Postby kylesmom9 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:57 am

My rule of thumb is three months...unless the literature says it takes longer. I tried matrixyl and saw no difference...stopped and even tried it again. Nothing. Argirline the same...nothing.

Antioxidants are good for protecting against damage so they should be used regardless of any immediate gratification! Vitamin C protects from free radicals, and over time has shown to induce collagen and fade hyperpigmentation. Therefore I would use it for it's antioxidant effects regardless and be pleasantly surprised by the rest. Niacinamide shows some antioxidant behavior as does resveratrol, so I add them in hoping for the anti aging benefits too, but counting on the protection from free radicals.

Retin a I have read takes at least 6 months to show noticable improvement in fine lines. Faster results if one is using for acne. So that one is for the long haul. Estriol I have read the same. The studies measure improvement at the 6 month mark, so though I have seen some improvement already, I would give it that long before I completely gave up on it.

The way I "hold myself back" is to do a lot of research on anything that I am fancying at the time. Most of the time if I wait two weeks before I order it...the urge will go away if I don't find some really great (peer based, placebo controlled hopefully) studies that show real promise. :D
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:29 am

Antioxidants? I heard of them, but.....
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Postby kylesmom9 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:22 pm

DCNGA~ This article might make a good sticky for the DIY and Skincare boards. I think it's easy for the layperson to read, and a good reference.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1067778-overview

There is a section on antioxidants for you Barbie!
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Postby ouch! » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:44 pm

I read somewhere that it is good to alternate what products one uses for the skin, almost like our skin can get too used to a product and the product becomes not as effective. I have no idea if there is any scientific evidence to support this, but it does seem like I have noticed that a certain active will seem to work well, but then I don't notice the benefits as much after a few months. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Postby kylesmom9 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:58 pm

No science behind that but here is an article that helps explain why people might think this is true:

http://thebeautybrains.com/2009/01/31/t ... p-working/

I do love the beauty brains.

I could say anything that doesn't make be look 28 again...isn't working :lol:

My feeling is if something is truly working, it will keep working...but we may get used to the new level of looking a certain way...and STILL be unsatisfied. I still look at my hyperpigmentation spots wondering what more I can do. Yet if I look back at pics from 6 years ago they are tremendously improved and truthfully are almost invisible.
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:33 pm

kylesmom9 wrote:No science behind that but here is an article that helps explain why people might think this is true:

http://thebeautybrains.com/2009/01/31/t ... p-working/

I do love the beauty brains.

I could say anything that doesn't make be look 28 again...isn't working :lol:

My feeling is if something is truly working, it will keep working...but we may get used to the new level of looking a certain way...and STILL be unsatisfied. I still look at my hyperpigmentation spots wondering what more I can do. Yet if I look back at pics from 6 years ago they are tremendously improved and truthfully are almost invisible.


I was thinking along this line, but couldn't say it so eloquently;-) I've had good results with creams, potions, I could see major difference in my skin, then it seemed to have just quit working, when in fact, I was looking for more improvement.

BUT;-))) you knew that was coming, how do you explain shampoos and conditioners that stop working on your hair, even after you get rid of the build up?

"we" want to browse through your powders/lotions, hair, makeup, we want to see what the mother ship carries;-)
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Postby kylesmom9 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:48 pm

barbiewannabe wrote:BUT;-))) you knew that was coming, how do you explain shampoos and conditioners that stop working on your hair, even after you get rid of the build up?



I explain that by saying most people don't get their hair cut into a good style often enough. Those dead ends are likely not going to do well with any products. :lol: My bad hair days are not existent right after I get my hair done...and they are almost daily when I need to get it done!

Though right now I am having some hair issues. I am growing it out longer again and when I don't get at least an inch cut off at a time, I pay for it with hair that won't behave.
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:53 am

kylesmom9 wrote:
barbiewannabe wrote:BUT;-))) you knew that was coming, how do you explain shampoos and conditioners that stop working on your hair, even after you get rid of the build up?



I explain that by saying most people don't get their hair cut into a good style often enough. Those dead ends are likely not going to do well with any products. :lol: My bad hair days are not existent right after I get my hair done...and they are almost daily when I need to get it done!

Though right now I am having some hair issues. I am growing it out longer again and when I don't get at least an inch cut off at a time, I pay for it with hair that won't behave.


Are you saying my hair is in horrendous condition, that the ends are all fried, and I never get it styled? That's the implication to me!

How long is your hair? And when should a woman of your age, stop growing their hair :P I think theres a few on the board that would want to wap me right now;-) it's all in fun, well....;-) Really if your hair is the length in the photo, it's long! I know a product or two that will help keep your ends "glued." One's on the pricey side but there is a way around that;_)

OK, as much as I hate to admit it....You may have a point there. However I would be cutting my hair on a monthly basis, and I have fine hair, as in volume, not good;-) and it takes forever to grow, surely you can related, I understand as you age it takes longer;-)))

Movin right along;-)
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Postby ouch! » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:59 am

First of all, Terri is young. Second of all, in my opinion, it is fine to have long hair at any age. I plan to!
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Postby kylesmom9 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:57 am

:lol: :lol:

Thanks for the vote of confidence on my hair Mary!

I am trying to get my hair back to the length in the picture. Just before summer I had it cut just up so it was an inch above my shoulders. At the present moment it is about two inches past my shoulders, but nowhere near the middle of my back as it was.

And yes right now MY hair is fried a bit in the middle layers. When I got it cut he focused on the ends and letting some of the shorter layers grow out...so I have a few splits that are not cooperating. And none of MY hair products are working the same. So there... :D
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:03 am

LOL!!!! Ouch Ouch, my hair is well past my shoulders;-)

Maybe it's time you got a hair trim Terr;-) and your products would work better;-)
I didn't know you had layers.
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Postby kylesmom9 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:35 am

If I didn't have layers my hair would just droop and look flat. I have lots of longish layers...especially around my face. I don't know if you can tell in the picture but around my face the layers never get longer than just under my chin. That way it gives my hair more volume on top and less on the ends to drag it down.

Then I use the flat iron to sort of lay them all together so they aren't really noticable as layers, but they REALLY add volume to my hair.

Sometimes I flip up the ends to make it more fun.

I think I have a pic of that...let me look.

Ok this is a bit shorter than my current hair...this was taken in Oct.
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:20 am

kylesmom9 wrote:If I didn't have layers my hair would just droop and look flat. I have lots of longish layers...especially around my face. I don't know if you can tell in the picture but around my face the layers never get longer than just under my chin. That way it gives my hair more volume on top and less on the ends to drag it down.

Then I use the flat iron to sort of lay them all together so they aren't really noticable as layers, but they REALLY add volume to my hair.

Sometimes I flip up the ends to make it more fun.

I think I have a pic of that...let me look.

Ok this is a bit shorter than my current hair...this was taken in Oct.


I HATE to say this, but you really are a pretty lady, now I have to wash my fingers;-)

Now, your sides, don't go any longer than your chin, I can see this in the photo, I take it you leave your bangs short, or the same length as your sides?

I was laying in bed, looking at my hair, actually pulling my hair out from under my arm, cause it gets tangled, thinking, your hair is way too fine to be this long, really. Yet I don't want to cut it.

I look at your hair, thinking, it looks very nice on you if I went for this, it would look totally different, face shape and all. I would look like a rag doll.

Is the back of your hair a tad bit shorter than the sides?


A really nice photo! Where was it taken, beach? Balcony of some type?
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