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Some of Terri's (Kylesmom9) Recipes

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Some of Terri's (Kylesmom9) Recipes

Postby kylesmom9 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:25 am

Anti Aging Cream

Since even I had a hard time locating where I put this post...I thought I would repost under an easy to find heading in case anyone was interested. I have been using this for a week and I am liking it. I did have to scale back on the vitamin C at first... increased acidity with the lactic made my skin a bit pink on the first few days. Especially with retin a use at night.

This time I used CeraVe as the base and used:

Niacinamide 4%
Glucosamine 2%
Resveratrol 1%
Lactic acid 12%
DMAE Bitartrate 8% (to make 3% DMAE in cream)
Base 73%

Then adding around 10% vitamin C daily.

I'm making a small batch 1oz and not using preservatives. I have been reading in places that resveratrol has stability issues (some places say yes and some no) so to be on the safe side I won't make more than I can use in two weeks. I did finally ask on the SAS board and Hannah said it is fairly stable for the short term...two weeks should be fine...probably longer. She says everything oxidizes...it's just the rate that we are worried about. I have seen 'stabilized' versions of resveratrol creams selling for $250...she agrees that a marketing gimmick to justify the price is most likely the explanation.

Anyhow, I like to post my formulations for anyone who is interested, and as a start to dialogue. So here we are!

Editing to add:
For me the additon of 12% lactic plus the vitamin c is too much. Instead of stinging for a few seconds...it goes many minutes the more I use it. I assume this is because I am concomitantly using retin a. My dad loves the 12% lactic and is using it twice a day with no problems or excessive stinging. So I am tapering back to an 8% lactic, but leaving the original recipe.
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Postby amanda123 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:54 pm

sounds like a winner concoction to me based on my limited research :lol: Always appreciate the sharing of recipes. It's just so fun too and hopefully we are getting some results too!!!
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Postby DCNGA » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:09 pm

Your recipes deserve their own sticky!
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Postby Barbiewannabee » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:22 pm

Most def, for some reason this can be addictive. Terri has saved me so much money, that I didn't' know I needed to spend;-)))) It's a great hobby! It's nice to be able to share with others.


Off topic, science has NEVER been an interest of mine, so I usually didn't do to well, IE, I may have been able to pass through third grade, but with the knowledge she has given on skin care it's , increased my interest all the way around.

It would be awesome if most of her recipes could be posted, with a breakdown for us, that are mathematically challenged;-)
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Postby amanda123 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:01 pm

I really like the glucosamine, resveratrol, and niacinimide. It seems to me they have some science behind them along with the Vitamin C. I also add dermagen, green tea, some B5 and white willow ( I am extremely oily and it helps). Sometimes, throw in some cerimides as well. I recently purchased zinc PCA (also for us oily folks I believe) along with some soy isoflavones and a mitochondrial booster thingy. I am such a junky!!!!

I could be wrong, but I believe this stuff is really working! I talked to a child at the gym (just joking - she's about 30) who said "what are you doing?" there are no lines on your face!" She had just come out of the tanning bed and I told her she needed to start right there!
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Postby kylesmom9 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:19 pm

amanda123 wrote: She had just come out of the tanning bed and I told her she needed to start right there!


Yikes! My husband sheepishly told me today that he wants to go get a base tan for summer. He knew what my reaction would be...

Go get your age spots and wrinkles if you think they are going to make you look better...me I'll go get a bottle of fake tan. :wink:

What is the dermagen? I googled it and don't come up with an active...only a product with some pasties you are supposed to put on your face. :lol:
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Postby kylesmom9 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:35 pm

Thanks D! Too funny...I clicked the link on my email to respond to this thread...then tried to find it...

I didn't realize you had already made it a sticky...I thought you were just saying that. :lol:

I'll plop some of the other 'recipes' over here too. For now I am just posting the percentages. Over the next week I will try to measure things out in mL and tsp and edit that information in.
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:36 am

Lactic Acid Lotion- 12%

If you mix 88% lactic (that is typically what you find for purchase) with CeraVe in the below amounts you will get a 12% lactic lotion with a pH around 3 to 4. I tried it on my arm and there was no stinging...it has been over an hour and no issues...no pink nothing. (pH 2.5 + is safe for a leave on product, though one should do a patch test if they have sensitive skin.)

So this is a true 12% solution not 12% of an 88%...in other words I did the math.

Ingredients:
2.5 tsp 88% lactic acid
1/4 cup + 2 tsp of CeraVe or preferred base lotion
3 big drops germaben or 6 small ones (if you have one of those 1 ml droppers it is 6)

If you don't have the germaben or other suitable preservative, then just make small amounts and use quickly (and don't stick your fingers in the jar!) Recipe can be doubled and possibly tripled but don't go further than that...since I rounded some numbers the percents could get off by multiplying TOO much.

I used a mixing boat, but a small dish with a stirring stick should work fine to make sure it is mixed well before putting it into a container.
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:45 am

Niacinamide/N acetyl glucosamine cream

This is what I use at night over my retin A. Studies show that Niacinamide helps decrease trans epidermal water loss (TEWL) and decrease the irritation some experience from retinoids.

Niacinamide 4%
N Acetyl Glucosamine 2%
CeraVe 94%
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:59 am

DMAE Serum

I am using DMAE bitartrate, which contains 37% DMAE. Some boards discuss the use of the bitartrate vs. amine forms. I found chemical information on the disassociation of DMAE in aqueous solution from any carrier, so I believe either form is fine. The amine form is highly alkaline (like a ph 10) so it is more difficult to work with. The serums/creams that have been studied use a 3% DMAE. This means roughly 8% is needed of the DMAE bitartrate to achieve a 3% DMAE serum/cream.

I used 1% hyaluronic acid serum as the base and 0.05% germaben as the preservative.

26g Hyaluronic Acid (Premade 1% in solution)
2.5g DMAE bitartrate (3% DMAE)
0.15g germaben (0.05%)

This makes roughly 1 oz of serum.

Any serum made with HA probably needs to be used under a moisturizer or sunscreen. It is not terribly moisturizing by itself. Good carrier for actives though.
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Postby scubagirl » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:13 am

Just started reading about all the "home" recipes and sounds wonderful....wher do you all buy thhe ingredients to make your products?
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Postby kylesmom9 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:12 am

There are many ingredient suppliers. Some of my favorites in no particular order are:

Skin Actives Scientific
Lotioncrafter
Garden of Wisdom
The personal formulator

You can google for their web addresses as links are not allowed on MMH. :)

Some of the skin actives products are sold here on MMH. There is a search function on the very top right of the forum pages (not the forum search!) Example: search niacinamide and you come up with this:
http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/search.do ... iacinamide

Since it works synergistically with N acetyl glucosamine...that comes up on the page too.

I generally try to group as many things into one order as I can so I save on shipping. Therefore I order around as some places carry things that others don't.
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Postby scubagirl » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:26 am

Thanks....hummmm this could habit frming I am sure!!!
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Postby amanda123 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:28 am

Terri - I get my dermagen from SAS. You can read about it there. I put it in everything.

I read with interest some earlier comments about resveratrol and that it could inhibit collagen production. I thought it was supposed to be a powerful antioxidant? It's all so confusing.

And by the way, I got the ovestrin (estriol cream not sure I'm spelling right), and have been using in the a.m. under my eye cream I make myself. I am beginning to see results I believe. So thanks to you and D for the tip on that!

Question, are you using it over your whole face?
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Postby DCNGA » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:27 pm

My derm says to only use in under the eyes (lower lids).
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